Anyone been following Russell brand’s rape trial?

[Psychonaut]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Pleasure.

In before someone uses it to analyse my psychological state, form a nice explanation for my psychology, and then force their frame of interpretation onto any statement I make from here on in

Exactly 

Edited 3 hours ago by Psychonaut

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I have a very politically incorrect question for women:

Would you rather be raped or spend 10 years in prison? Which is worse?

Wow, that's a simple but very poignant question. 

It does have to be differentiated depending on the context, such as a violent assault by an unknown perpetrator versus a non-consensual violation occurring within a familiar interaction.

Also multiple victims muddies the water as well as the overall reduction of rape in society from public verdicts like this. 

They are important questions and conversations to have; I think overall the conservative attitude of don't talk about sex and sweep all uncomfortable questions under the rug has caused a lot of harm.

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Jodistrict]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Do not overlook relativity.

He may genuinely feel he is innocent. The mind is playing tricks on him. The Christianity makes those tricks worse, not better.

In his mind he does not see it as rape.

Relativity.

That is because his ego is using Christianity as just another grift which just feeds the false personality and makes it bigger.   Only confession can break that loop and make it real.

[Psychonaut]

1 minute ago, Jodistrict said:

That is because his ego is using Christianity as just another grift which just feeds the false personality and makes it bigger.   Only confession can break that loop and make it real.

Exactly...

[Leo Gura]

36 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

That is because his ego is using Christianity as just another grift

Well, that's the best he knows how to do.

Not everyone listens to Actualized.org 

You take for granted that you know what pure spirituality is. Most will never know.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Seed]

@Leo Gura Y’all forget where he came from. He’ll be okay. He’ll probably  build a mini cult and he’s skilled at connecting with people .

the strength it takes to kick heroin doesn’t leave you. 

He’s also being sent to a vulnerable person prison which isn’t as hardcore

[Seed]

@Leo Gura that’s  a good question.i think I’d rather be raped as then I’d have freedom to try to recover. 

[Jodistrict]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

You take for granted that you know what pure spirituality is. Most will never know.

On thing  I am certain of is that authentic spirituality isn’t bla bla bla.   That’s why confession is so damn hard to do.  The ego just screams “you are crazy, this will kill me”.   Which is the whole point. 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

On thing  I am certain of is that authentic spirituality isn’t bla bla bla.   That’s why confession is so damn hard to do.  The ego just screams “you are crazy, this will kill me”.   Which is the whole point. 

Confession usually isn't done so publicly.

And it takes time to admit it to oneself.

It is not easy to admit to yourself that you are a rapist. He is still in denial about it because it is so painful.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

And it takes time to admit it to oneself.

It is not easy to admit to yourself that you are a rapist. He is still in denial about it because it is so painful.

I think this is the more difficult hurdle of the two: internal admission vs public admission/confession. I believe he is totally self deceived.

He is having to redefine how he qualifies rape & consent in his mind. He would have to come to terms with what this means for himself. His character. What this means for him. That feeling of lost integrity can be destabilising for the mind; especially when we have a construct in operation around a narrative "I am a good man".

I'd imagine this would entail a substantial volume of renumeration; if it were me, I would be going over every sexual encounter (I could recall, considering he was probably inebriated in some form for most) and replaying what was said, my read on the person. Attempting to recall information I may have failed to pick up on, or ignored.

That is a lot of ego backlash.

Then it has to be accepted. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[JoshB]

@Natasha Tori Maru wow you have a bigger pair then most men on here 

[Psychonaut]

Indeed.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

42 minutes ago, JoshB said:

@Natasha Tori Maru wow you have a bigger pair then most men on here 

Experience. And earned wisdom.

I think I was born with a very high capacity for stress, but I also learned early on that recovering from failure was more powerful a tool than avoiding or being locked in indecisiveness. A lot of varied, challenging and poor life experience has resulted in deep self trust. I trust in my capacity to deal with violation & transgression of my self; physical and mental. I do practice caution, but I am not fearing in the sense I have a complex of thought that inhibits me. I suppose I have demonstrated to myself my own capacity for stress and operate from there. I am not afraid to ask for help and lean on others. This was a hard lesson.

I don't know what is to come. I don't know how much I might suffer. But I trust I have the capacity to handle it and recover. 

And if I don't - well - I'll be dead! I (so to speak, haha) won't be there to worry

I suppose the trick is not letting experience harden you. It is just a story about some girl named Natasha out in space!

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Jodistrict]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Confession usually isn't done so publicly.

And it takes time to admit it to oneself.

It is not easy to admit to yourself that you are a rapist. He is still in denial about it because it is so painful.

That’s the first step.  I think the reason for public confession (which is nothing more than telling the truth) is to help the victims heal.  Because having something like that happen to you and it is not believed or is dismissed by society has its own corrosive affect on the soul.   But, if he every has an authentic transformation, then he will want to do that.  Not because it is being forced.  It will just naturally come from the heart.   

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Let's have some FUCKING ARRESTS over Epstein.

Haven't seen that yet.

[Leo Gura]

Brand is probably thinking that some politcial conspiracy of globalists brought him down for speaking truth to power.

[Apparition of Jack]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Brand is probably thinking that some politcial conspiracy of globalists brought him down for speaking truth to power.

More like speaking grift to power lmao 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Brand is probably thinking that some politcial conspiracy of globalists brought him down for speaking truth to power.

This is it. His brain is full of cotton wool conspiracy pattern matching threads of esoteric beliefs.

Just listening to him in that Piers Morgan interview is painful. Insane amounts of flamboyant, ostentatious rhetoric that says nothing at all while retreating into a semantic fog when challenged. It takes 20 minutes to even understand one line from him, meanwhile he has shotgun fired into ten other conspiracy theories. I swear he studied Jordan Peterson's slippery evasion jukes.

There is so much show to try to appear erudite.

Edited 41 minutes ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Apparition of Jack]

15 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This is it. His brain is full of cotton wool conspiracy pattern matching threads of esoteric beliefs.

Just listening to him in that Piers Morgan interview is painful. Insane amounts of flamboyant, ostentatious rhetoric that says nothing at all while retreating into a semantic fog when challenged. It takes 20 minutes to even understand one line from him, meanwhile he has shotgun fired into ten other conspiracy theories. I swear he studied Jordan Peterson's slippery evasion jukes.

There is so much show to try to appear erudite.

I’m pretty sure COVID broke his brain. For some reason a lot of influential people from that era turned into the biggest grifters, populists, charlatans etc after it happened. Obviously he wasn’t a great guy before but after the pandemic he seems to have lost the plot.

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

slippery evasion jukes.