Women are better hunter, science suggests

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Women are often referred to as mothers in discussions like this.

But men are more often referred to as men or providers. Not fathers. 

I wonder why there is asymmetry there - it appears all over the forum in discussions of this type.

Is it because motherhood is more salient? Asymmetrical model of parental responsibility?

[Willy Phallicus]

10 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Women are often referred to as mothers in discussions like this.

But men are more often referred to as men or providers. Not fathers. 

I wonder why there is asymmetry there - it appears all over the forum in discussions of this type.

Could be because once upon a time the only males breeding would be the alphas and they weren't exactly monogamous.

[Basman]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Women are often referred to as mothers in discussions like this.

But men are more often referred to as men or providers. Not fathers. 

I wonder why there is asymmetry there - it appears all over the forum in discussions of this type.

Is it because motherhood is more salient? Asymmetrical model of parental responsibility?

Because a man's function is raw physical survival. One man can impregnate a 100 women, but that means little if they can't also survive. Reproduction is the easy part for men. 

Historically it wasn't always clear who the father was depending on the culture. But a child is almost always at least tied to its mother. 

The same is often true of other mammals. The one who gives birth raises the kids. The males either help out with hunting/territory if its a social species or they just provide good genes. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

More examples of the framing I am questioning. The prompt to consider fatherhood, and the go is immediately toward male reproductive behaviour and mating status. 

Maybe men do not perceive themselves overly connected with the role. You are, though.

It is the rhetoric employed NOW I question. Right here. On this very forum.

[Jannes]

37 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Could be because once upon a time the only males breeding would be the alphas and they weren't exactly monogamous.

Thats a pretty huge claim to make. Can you back that up?

[Jannes]

35 minutes ago, Basman said:

Because a man's function is raw physical survival. One man can impregnate a 100 women, but that means little if they can't also survive. Reproduction is the easy part for men. 

Historically it wasn't always clear who the father was depending on the culture. But a child is almost always at least tied to its mother. 

The same is often true of other mammals. The one who gives birth raises the kids. The males either help out with hunting/territory if its a social species or they just provide good genes. 

What if the 100 kids couldnt survive on their own if they werent thought and protected by their father? Lets say its black and white and the men is a survival machine and the women is there to raise kids, then only the dad could really teach their kids any surviving skills. 

[Willy Phallicus]

59 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

More examples of the framing I am questioning. The prompt to consider fatherhood, and the go is immediately toward male reproductive behaviour and mating status. 

Maybe men do not perceive themselves overly connected with the role. You are, though.

They are fathers in so far as their seed is necessary.  They still protect and provide.  Its for the whole of the community though, not just his off spring.

Things are different now with institutions like marriage but a mans biological imperative is still to dominate and impregnate as many women as possible.  

[Emerald]

I'm sure that men may have historically been more likely to hunt than women... though it's not as binary as was once thought.

But women tend to endure for slightly longer on walking journeys than men do.

And humans largely have been endurance hunters, where we just keep slowly tracking an animal for days and days until it's exhausted. 

So, it's not so unreasonable to think that women could have been great endurance hunters. It takes more endurance than it does strength because the animal is exhausted by the time it's time to attack.