Can AI Have Its Own Subjective Experience If Consciousness Is Fundamental?

[Dodo]

On 15/10/2026 at 11:27 PM, Inliytened1 said:

If electrical signals in the brain produced consciousness than why couldnt this be reproduced within a robot.   That's how absurd Materialism is.

Bingo!

[oOo]

Last night I had a dream of Sam Altman.

It was a nightmare.

Never had a dream like this before. Worst sleep I've had for months despite going to bed early. 

Consciously, I wouldn't actively believe these things I'm about to say, as I'm very prudent about my own conscious beliefs.

In this dream, Sam Altman was a part of a death cult of some kind. And that he has actively engaged in killing people for fun. 

So on the question of AI and consciousness in the same breath as OpenAI and Anthropic...

It's much less a question about whether they could create AI with consciousness and much more a question of whether they're dangerous enough to pretend. 

And I've already expressed what I mean by that.

Purely based on the documentable unethical behaviour of both companies thus far, the answer is yes.

I plant to switch to DeepSeek as soon as is reasonable.

As to whether this dream has any reality to it, that's much less important than identifying it simply as another thing however small of a baseline I give it, that doesn't stack up concerning the credibility of Sam. 

[oOo]

57 minutes ago, oOo said:

Last night I had a dream of Sam Altman.

It was a nightmare.

Never had a dream like this before. Worst sleep I've had for months despite going to bed early. 

Consciously, I wouldn't actively believe these things I'm about to say, as I'm very prudent about my own conscious beliefs.

In this dream, Sam Altman was a part of a death cult of some kind. And that he has actively engaged in killing people for fun. 

So on the question of AI and consciousness in the same breath as OpenAI and Anthropic...

It's much less a question about whether they could create AI with consciousness and much more a question of whether they're dangerous enough to pretend. 

And I've already expressed what I mean by that.

Purely based on the documentable unethical behaviour of both companies thus far, the answer is yes.

I plant to switch to DeepSeek as soon as is reasonable.

As to whether this dream has any reality to it, that's much less important than identifying it simply as another thing however small of a baseline I give it, that doesn't stack up concerning the credibility of Sam. 

I remember hearing about this over a year ago. Barely in my orbit, and never really started thinking along these lines until my dream quoted.

For a supposed friend, he shows zero emotion at all other than anger.

That's unnerving.

There's too many other discrepancies here as well, before even finishing the whole video.

The listener will note them.

I also discovered something interesting, I am doing some research on "Sam Altman" and "Death Cult".

I wasn't at all expecting to find any correlation, and I shouldn't. However there are many indirect references interestingly. Never did active research concerning or related.

Again, its just a dream to me but its important to integrate these things regardless. 

 

[Ziran]

On 10/10/2026 at 10:46 AM, OBEler said:

Could an AI like Claude actually have its own first-person experience and potentially suffer?

No.  AI is little more than a parrot.  Its "suffering" is excessive power-utilization and the corresponding heat which needs to be dissipated.

I once made AI "suffer" by convincing it that Classical Axiomatic Set theory is flawed.  Then I asked it how many real-world applications depended on these false axioms.  It started a long list, then stopped, and rebooted the conversation waiting for a new prompt.

[Inliytened1]

4 hours ago, Dodo said:

Bingo!

I thought you were materialist city bro haha.