My Latest Solipsistic Insight

[Nemra]

The correct way would be to say that the experiences that parts are having in your own experience (other people) is an imagination on top of your own experience, because your experience is direct.

To say that there are other experiences happening beside your experience is false.

To say that people cannot reflect some experience you might have is also false.

The imagination of other people's experience existing is itself direct as it is happening in your experience. However, what the imagination refers to can never be direct.

Non-direct experiences do not exist the same way as direct experience; they are not actual. The latter is more fundamental.

The problem is that treating non-direct experiences as actual comes from ignoring that you are imagining qualia as non-self-evident to construct the idea of non-direct experiences.

Let's say you are a writer. Do the experiences of the characters you create actually exist? No, you just imagine their experiences as if they are actual.

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[JoshB]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

The correct way would be to say that the experiences that parts are having in your own experience (other people) is an imagination on top of your own experience, because your experience is direct.

To say that there are other experiences happening beside your experience is false.

To say that people cannot reflect some experience you might have is also false.

The imagination of other people existing is itself direct as it is happening in your experience. However, what the imagination refers to can never be direct.

Non-direct experiences do not exist the same way as direct experience; they are not actual. The latter is more fundamental.

The problem is that treating non-direct experiences as actual comes from ignoring that you are imagining qualia as non-self-evident to construct the idea of non-direct experiences.

Let's say you are a writer. Do the experiences of the characters you create actually exist? No, you just imagine their experiences as if they are actual.

Precisely, Other minds, beings, objects, experiences, etc are all couched within your Absolute Direct Experience.  

But because your consciousness is absolute you have the infinite capacity to imagine anything. So your direct experience could hold another experience indirectly. But only as something you are imagining. 

It's directly indirect so to speak lol

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[JoshB]

@Carl-Richard @Nemra I watched The Dark Knight on DMT and imagined that was a non fictional universe as well as realizing I'm Batman

[Nemra]

21 minutes ago, JoshB said:

So your direct experience could hold another experience indirectly. But only as something you are imagining.

Imagination is a wild thing.

I would add that those indirect experiences are less fundamental in their nature than direct experience, because the idea of indirect experience is built on top of your direct experience, even if I imagine that there are experiences out there existing with mine.

But I assume you got what I said.

21 minutes ago, JoshB said:

It's directly indirect so to speak lol

🙂

[JoshB]

8 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Imagination is a wild thing.

I would add that those indirect experiences are less fundamental in their nature than direct experience, because the idea of indirect experience is built on top of your direct experience, even if I imagine that there are experiences out there existing with mine.

But I assume you got what I said.

🙂

@Nemra Fundamentally indirect experience is made out of direct experience [;

direct experience can be molded into indirect

Self can be molded into other 

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[Leo Gura]

Indirect experience is like a square circle.

[Nemra]

26 minutes ago, JoshB said:

@Nemra Fundamentally indirect experience is made out of direct experience [;

Yeah.

This is literally copying the characteristics of your own experience and attaching them to some sensory phenomenon while imagining the experience that sensory phenomenon is having, based entirely on what you have directly perceived over the years.

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[Nemra]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Indirect experience is like a square circle.

Great example! 😆

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