Almost 9/11 style terror attack

[Heaven]

18 hours ago, Ulax said:

Israel are simply too blinded by their rage atm

Rage for 3 years? Tell yourself whatever stories you want to hear but it makes you the blind one

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Heaven said:

Rage for 3 years?

Dude, they are still blinded from the Holocaust.

Of course they are still blinded by Oct 7th.

The Holocaust cast a very long shadow.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Ulax]

43 minutes ago, Heaven said:

Rage for 3 years? Tell yourself whatever stories you want to hear but it makes you the blind one

Yeah you're probably right

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, Heaven said:

Rage for 3 years? Tell yourself whatever stories you want to hear but it makes you the blind one

Couple of days ago I heard a new story about Oct7. After that, it was impossible for me to judge the emotions of the people who have gone through this.

Edited 1 hour ago by Nivsch

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Nivsch said:

Couple of days ago I heard a new story about Oct7. After that, it is simply impossible to judge the emotions of Israelis who have gone through this.

What was the story?

[Karmadhi]

12 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Couple of days ago I heard a new story about Oct7. After that, it was impossible for me to judge the emotions of the people who have gone through this.

Do you apply the same standard for the Gazans who commited october 7th who went through similar if not worse by previous Israeli actions?

You do realize the 2014 war in Gaza alone caused more suffering amongs the Gazan civilian population than October 7th did on Israel

At least be uniform consistent

[Nivsch]

@Ulax I mean that I can't not to understand their emotions after hearing what they had been through. I don't want to overwhelm the forum with that but I will try to find a link or something.

[Nivsch]

5 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

You do realize the 2014 war in Gaza alone caused more suffering amongs the Gazan civilian population than October 7th did on Israel

At least be uniform consistent

This is not a competition. I think both sides have suffered terribly.

Edited 55 minutes ago by Nivsch

[Ulax]

@Nivsch It is good to share more about Oct 7th. People are too dismissive of what happened that day.

I found watching the Shoah Foundation very insightful

[Nivsch]

16 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Do you apply the same standard for the Gazans who commited october 7th who went through similar if not worse by previous Israeli actions?

The specific people who committed Oct7? No empathy for that.

Edited 44 minutes ago by Nivsch

[Basman]

9 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

The indigenous Sami people in europe are also a good example of people who got sidelined by the other invading european groups on account of superior military and economic ability and subject to discrimination.

Stage purple peoples are basically defenseless at the scale of nationhood. Their survival depends on a nations good will or just being too out of the way to care about.

9 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

The American natives enjoyed military successes against the US  initially, till superior technology ,  logistics and mass attacks against unarmed  native civilians changed the tide. 

Crazy Horse was a native American general who was never defeated in any battle with the US, till he was deceitfully killed in an American army camp where he was invited for peaceful negotiations.

However their large numbers and ability for guerrila warfare in forests and irregular terrain, meant that the US eventually came to negotiations with them, allowing them native dependent nations with a certain degree of sovereignty.

Uncontrolled pathogens killed 80-90% of them actually. Most Natives died before ever seeing any European settlers. They really didn't stand a chance. 

And reservations are defeat on a demographic scale if you don't control your own borders. They are basically large open air prisons, not unlike Gaza. They dependent on government rations to survive and couldn't leave (also not unlike Gaza). It wasn't until American society liberalized more that their conditions improved as a captive people. In parallel, what it would take for Palestinians to be saved long-term is for Israel to grow a conscious. A defeated people cannot survive on its own merits, but by the grace of its enemies. 

Thank though, ChatGPT.