Why is China hated so much in the West?

[Basman]

3 hours ago, Ajay0 said:

 

 These are historical facts, not propaganda.

Denmark is ceding the  US permanent military control over Greenland, so I suppose you want to portray them as flawless angels , which is fine with me. 

You can makeup any fact and twist things to justify your position. 

[coca]

@Leo Gura It may have been a typo but I do like the notion of “Chineses” rather than Chinese.

From what I understand China is one of the most surveillance heavy countries in the world, utilizing facial recognition cameras, and the population is eager to inform authorities of any suspicions. Wouldn’t it be very difficult to conduct such activity specifically in china? 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, coca said:

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to conduct such activity specifically in china? 

What activity? Sex?

You can conduct sex anywhere.

It would not surprise me if the CCP conducts orgies with children.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[coca]

@Leo Gura With children on the scale that we have in America. 

I recently sold my collection of chrome hearts clothing after the Epstein files were released, many popular American figures such as Martha Stewart, Naomi Campbell, Diana Ross, Micheal Jackson, Mick Jagger, Jay z, Ghislane Maxwell, have been intimately affiliated with Epstein and the fashion house chrome hearts. 

Not only is Americas hottest fashion house deeply corrupt, it has relationships with other figures from major world wide brands such as Pharrell from Louis Vuitton who boldly posted Pusha T after he and Jay z were caught in the Epstein files. Demna from gucci and balenciaga was also involved in a scandal with children. 

I think to have this activity be so prevalent would only be possible in American elite society.

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, coca said:

I think to have this activity be so prevalent would only be possible in American elite society.

Why?

Sex with children is business as usual in 3rd world countries. They barely need to hide it.

In America it is a serious crime so requires lots of hiding and power.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[coca]

@Leo Gura Hiding it is only one factor in the process of grooming, and often an irrelevant one. The American elite and the general Hollywood/celebrity culture allows for this conduct openly, as long as the victim/family/society are groomed well enough. In third world countries, grooming is more difficult as predators must contend with the cultural/moral/social/financial barriers of families and the authorities which are much stricter than in America.  

Going back to my chrome hearts example, there are public images of Martha Stewart, Naomi Campbell, Diana Ross, Micheal Jackson, Mick Jagger, Jay z, Ghislane Maxwell posing in intimate photos with Epstein and also wearing the brand chrome hearts (which is ran by the stark family and is known for highly personalized service especially for VIP clientele as the starks like to surround themselves with powerful figures.) My instagram account was ignored and ultimately deleted for speaking out about this. 

These are household names that have earned the trust of the American people, when you look at the Epstein files you see that this trust was often the initial point of corruption that allowed for further grooming of victims. 

[Sandhu]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why?

Sex with children is business as usual in 3rd world countries. They barely need to hide it.

In America it is a serious crime so requires lots of hiding and power.

Very true. In my country it's normal and you can easily get away with it even if it's blatant rape although it's a big taboo but it's business as ususal to use underage boys especially for sex.

[coca]

@Sandhu Which is your country? Wouldn’t you agree that hiding it is more up to relative personal preference or logistics rather than a vital static factor in the equation?

[Thought Art]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What activity? Sex?

You can conduct sex anywhere.

It would not surprise me if the CCP conducts orgies with children.

Highly doubt that…

Reminds me of the book Oryx and Crake though by Margorate Atwood. The depiction of various survival schemes such as small villages selling girls into sex work is dark. This happens to a main character. 
 

Very Dark book, it’s also very good as it covers to much about science, society, art, apocalyptic themes. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Thought Art

[OmniNaut]

I think there needs to be a distinction made between the different levels of view and interaction with China.
- National/government level
- Media level
- Population level

A country can have friendly ties with China on a political level, but media or the population can have a completely different opinion. 
There are different dynamics in play on each level. They influence each other but also have their own system inside of them.

Don't think that it's only the West that has a negative attitude towards China.

- Philippines: dispute with China about territorial claim in South China Sea, Chinese spies caught in government position. Even a Filipino Mayor who was exposed as Chinese born and having ties with CCP

- Taiwan: dispute if it's part of China or a sovereign country

- Cambodia: Sihanoukville, is a casino town run by Chinese mafia. This happened after Cambodia opened borders, trading and influence

 

This video basically answers the main question of this topic.

Also if you look at it from a nations psychological stand point. It is in human nature to be accusing to others while be totally blind and dismissive to your own wrong doings. You protect yourself interest by accusing others when you are scared to loose power. Gaslighting as it's called, and part of the NPD spectrum.
That doesn't mean that every point of discussion is a part of gaslighting, but even if it's a valid point it is blown out of proportion to put the blame. Where have we seen this before, oh yeah unconsciousness politics.

Edited 6 hours ago by OmniNaut

[Joseph Maynor]

You guys talk a lot of shit but my guess the only China you have been to is in your own biased mind.  

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You guys talk a lot of shit but my guess the only China you have been to is in your own biased mind.  

Going to China is not going to show you all the IP they steal or children they molest.

These issues are beyond a personanl vacation.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Going to China is not going to show you all the IP they steal or children they molest.

These issues are beyond a personanl vacation.

Have you been to China Leo?

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Have you been to China Leo?

Nope.

But I been in the USA for 30 years and never seen a child molested in front of me.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope.

But I been in the USA for 30 years and never seen a child molested in front of me.

You don't need to do this Leo.  

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You don't need to do this Leo.  

Maybe I will some day.

But I got bigger fish to fry than travel.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Maybe I will some day.

But I got bigger fish to fry than travel.

Okay.  Maybe you should know what you are talking about before you pass harsh judgment.  

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Okay.  Maybe you should know what you are talking about before you pass harsh judgment.  

I have nothing against China.

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I have nothing against China.

Go back and read your comments in this thread.  

[Leo Gura]

When I say something negative about a topic you like, you guys love to assume I got some personal bias against it, but I am just speaking objectively.