Braden Peters arrested for rape (‘Looksmaxxing’ influencer Clavicular)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LordFall I agree he is very immature. I expect him to reach 30 and think "what the fuck was I thinking?"

At the same time, rape accusations are serious. Guilty or not - it will be a challenging media storm for him. And nobody deserves to be accused if it is false due to how seriously it is considered by society.

If he had some other value's he embodied and emphasized in other domains - diligence, focus, responsibility, life purpose, agency, excellence, integrity, growth, intellectual honesty - I would not think so lowly of him as a role model for young men. He represents so much of what is wrong with male dominance hierarchies when they are engaged in just to shit on other men.

[Leo Gura]

Sartain is shallow, but at least he isn't blackpilling young men and Sartain's advice will actually get you laid.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[oOo]

He's just a young guy, you have to look at interacting factors.

He became besties with Cam-Girls Tate for Christ's sakes.

Plus where's his father and mother in all this.

This never would have happened if Tate's authority influence leaned in a more integrous direction. 

He's just an avatar of toxicity that has been turned into a sellable brand of many kinds now. 

Bridge the causes not the symptoms.

I barely know him, and there's societal patterns that must intersect.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, oOo said:

Plus where's his father and mother in all this.

They have been present. But he has stated multiple times they cannot control him, despite taking away his hammers (for example) for the bonesmashing. And attempting other methods which fell short.

They tried to prevent his steroid use also, which he abused in college. He was ultimately kicked out of college for possessing stockpiles of contraband substances for looksmaxxing. Personal use.

This is all reported from Braden himself in interviews.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@oOo I think social media and online content does more to raise kids these days. Unless parents are diligent around appropriate use ☹️

[Lyubov]

He might not make it past 30 at this rate 

[Leo Gura]

I'm concerned that one of his depressed followers might turn into a school shooter.

Looksmaxxing will end in a school shooting. Because it is a miserable worldview.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

On 23.9.2026 at 3:23 PM, Lyubov said:

Peter Thiel's astroturf'd influencer for poisoning the male youth and getting them to go right wing is now catching chargers 

But he is "not political"? 🤔

[Karmadhi]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Looksmaxxing will end in a school shooting. Because it is a miserable worldview.

Do you think that is worse or the "be an asshole to girls to like you" thing that Tate preaches?

[Leo Gura]

26 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Do you think that is worse or the "be an asshole to girls to like you" thing that Tate preaches?

Tate is probably better than Clav.

[Xonas Pitfall]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Tate is probably better than Clav.

Hard doubt on this LOL Both very bad

Edited 10 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Leo Gura]

I mean their teachings, not their crimes.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I mean their teachings, not their crimes.

It's really impressive how someone's teaching can be worse from Andrew Tate. Dude is literally a man child, at the conventional stage of ego development, with a materialistic consciousness, a misogynistic worldview, and an egocentric attitude. 

[Leo Gura]

Red Pill is better than Black Pill.

[Xonas Pitfall]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Red Pill is better than Black Pill.

Gotcha, I misunderstood then. In that case, I agree.

I was thinking specifically of Tate’s teachings because a lot of his Real World courses were centered around teaching others his manipulation, exploitation, sex trafficking, Loverboy method techniques, etc. But if we’re just talking about red pill vs. black pill, then I’d probably agree.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura Black pill guys aren't serious people; they just want to whine and complain instead of taking action to solve their problems. At least red pill people's ego is structured around competition, taking action and responsibility. Even though it is unspiritual, immature, juvenile, and toxic it is still better than doing absolutely nothing except whining and complaining. 

[Leo Gura]

Okay, good point.

[Lyubov]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Tate is probably better than Clav.

poor optics here. tate is a violent serial rapist and child abuse image producer.

[Raze]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm concerned that one of his depressed followers might turn into a school shooter.

Looksmaxxing will end in a school shooting. Because it is a miserable worldview.

That’s already happened a few times.

I don’t think Clav will set anything off, I don’t think he has fans in the normal sense, they vicariously live through him but kind of want him to fail.

[Raze]

Saying Sartain represents redpill is like saying some legitimate male stylist who uses some bp terms represents blackpill.

Kind of associated but not really comparable to 99% of the rest of the space.