Why is Omnipotence harder to realize than Omnipresence and Omniscience?

[kavaris]

Michael Jame Rannanana, he talks about pre determinism. Right? humor me.

I talk about "pre determinism is what you make it", right? Cause at what point do you ask "What does it even mean?"

Like, say i imagine "God energy ball" or some traveling ball of good luck, and fortunate, or some sense of foresight that lives in my head, but also exists w/ me, As it does, As im very much believing it, As something true...

Suppose all of that, now heres the question. What can you call that now?

Thats something thats both real for you, real because you believe it, and validated through the real you associate with it.

So you really have two things, right? You got the A) The point of which energy was confronted, enough to be like this energy ball, and 2) you have the validation of said energy through the experience mechanism.

Im not gonna belabor the point, nor will i try to build on it, cause thats the bas8c premise, but heres the question, reiterated in a new way — Do you call that real?

What even is that? Lije how do you make heads or tails whats going on there? The question itself is the antagonist that provides the protagonist, like, thats why the question itself is everything.

On the flip side, the answer was what was required to even recognize it in the first place, so its more like a "sacred diamond", Like its got multiple ways of looking at it.

[kavaris]

Like the "you" that was everything was made true, because we said it, likewise, we can lose track of that you'ness, So what even is it now? Its us, but its not us? Its Being but its not? Crazy right?

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, kavaris said:

Like the "you" that was everything was made true, because we said it, likewise, we can lose track of that you'ness, So what even is it now? Its us, but its not us? Its Being but its not? Crazy right?

I think is what the neo-advaita people try to point out, and it is a genuine problem.  

[kavaris]

Also, we ARE Being, so like, thats not like it goes away, like... you are not Bob on tuesday and then Jack on wednesday or something, So Being has a fundamental always playing, And Being, you could go beyond that to deconstruct yourself, and redfine Beingness.

I bring that up just to strum on whats evidently so, so its not like its belaboring a hard point, its just weird is all, and that weirdness gets pretty quiet pretty fast, most weirdness does, though its like, its never not available. Theres always something more, but evenrually its like fuck it i concede to whatever this jazz is..

 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, kavaris said:

Also, we ARE Being, so like, thats not like it goes away, like... you are not Bob on tuesday and then Jack on wednesday or something, So Being has a fundamental always playing, And Being, you could go beyond that to deconstruct yourself, and redfine Beingness.

I bring that up just to strum on whats evidently so, so its not like its belaboring a hard point, its just weird is all, and that weirdness gets pretty quiet pretty fast, most weirdness does, though its like, its never not available. Theres always something more, but evenrually its like fuck it i concede to whatever this jazz is..

Yes.  The desire to rationally resolve is also an assumption in spirituality.  This has to examined too.  Because does a rational resolution of an issue actually capture it or not?  Maybe it does.  To say it does or does not is another rational presumption and conclusion.   

[kavaris]

10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes.  The desire to rationally resolve is also an assumption in spirituality.  This has to examined too.  Because does a rational resolution of an issue actually capture it or not?  Maybe it does.  To say it does or does not is another rational presumption and conclusion.   

And also,alot of this is prolly stuff many of yas have realized, like this little minutia, but have just forget, because its so little and stupid, or because its so similar, or its spinning so fast next to a tangentially related... i mean, forgetfulness is killer, i mean its like, if ya forget you start over, and if you remenber, you are awaiting the day to just be free of the memory, like its eternal. whatever ya want it to mean / be, et caetera.

[Breakingthewall]

15 hours ago, kavaris said:

Like the "you" that was everything was made true, because we said it, likewise, we can lose track of that you'ness, So what even is it now? Its us, but its not us? Its Being but its not? Crazy right?

It's extremely simple: being is absolute. The absolute being is, that's everything. Right not what is, is. Anything else are just structures that this fact takes, but ultimately, being is, that's everything, and if you are open to it, your psyche is burned and only the unlimited remains . Just dare to look directly to the abyss. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Joseph Maynor]

15 hours ago, kavaris said:

And also,alot of this is prolly stuff many of yas have realized, like this little minutia, but have just forget, because its so little and stupid, or because its so similar, or its spinning so fast next to a tangentially related... i mean, forgetfulness is killer, i mean its like, if ya forget you start over, and if you remenber, you are awaiting the day to just be free of the memory, like its eternal. whatever ya want it to mean / be, et caetera.

Exactly. 

[JoshB]

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[Willy Phallicus]

20 hours ago, LordFall said:

How do you reconcile that with human will and especially in the future?

There is nothing to reconcile.  The whole universe emerged from absolute nothing.  Because this reality is the creation of an infinite scalar nothing this reality is nonlinear.  All properties are emergent but they are at the same time preexistent and self created.  There is no way to say it - it can only be "sensed".

It's why the mundane conception of karma is invalid - every thing happens before it does and everything happens simultaneously - there is no sequence (think ouroboros).  In a nonlinear reality predetermination vs freewill is meaningless.  The totality is beyond time and space - everything within context and sequence is only at best quasi real - a very convincing dream.  There is no such thing as the future.

21 hours ago, LordFall said:

Let's say in the next 1 year we face the possibility of Russia using a nuclear weapon in the Ukraine war. Unfortunately it seems like that's our timeline. It could or could not happen. Which path is God's will?

All of it.  There is nothing outside Gods will.  If the planet gets nuked to extinction next week, so what?  Just make a new planet.  Duh.

If you think God has any qualms about obliterating humans or entire galaxies and anything in between think again.  He can blow everything to smithereens and human could go the way of the dinosaur and maybe something better comes along to take their place or God rolls it back and tells the human redemption story instead.  Maybe Christ doesn't have to be crucified.  Maybe it ends up being a zombie apocalypse movie.  But sure, nuclear winter is certainly on the table.  How about nuclear devastation with zombies, Terminators and a moon base? I can't really say, there is no limit to the imagination.  God is obviously a big fan of telling himself wild stories where other minds exist and the stakes are high.

22 hours ago, LordFall said:

God doesn't make mistakes or is willing to accept everything and ultimately from it's position it doesnt matter?

It doesn't matter - in the best way possible.  Existence is meaningless - but it doesn't have to be boring.  It is the blessing and curse of infinite existence.  Nothing matters but since you can convince yourself otherwise with your limitless power it's not a deal breaker for you.  Winning the lottery is great, winning the lottery forever isn't, hence the contrast.  And of course you sprinkle in the whole 'finding out youre God and it was just you all along' thing into the story so you can remember the old news but it in a way that makes it feel like the first time.  Its the one thing that never gets old - remembering who and what you truly are.

23 hours ago, LordFall said:

If you get in a car crash and you have infinite money and can't get injured I still think the car crash was a mistake, you just don't have the ability to suffer consequences. 

God gave himself infinite funds, made sure he didn't get hurt in the wreck and told himself the wreck a mistake because he wanted to have the 'unfathomably rich person who is immune to injury who walks away from car accidents thinking it was a mistake' experience.