Why is Omnipotence harder to realize than Omnipresence and Omniscience?

[LordFall]

Omnipotence and infinite power are very tricky because they invalidate reality if done improperly.

For example if we look at geopolitics we can clearly see that one entity that's too powerful ruins the lives of all the others. It doesn't necessarily have to be the case which is why spiral dynamics is such an interesting model.

I think omnipotence has been baked into reality with the pursuit of consciousness so that some entities learn how to become extremely powerful while increasing other's power at the same time without limiting it creating a multiplication effect and a positive sum game. 

So for example by watching Leo's content you become more conscious and thus now your power adds to reality as opposed to detracting from it and also gets him paid which is win-win-win across the board.

If it was not done this way then power becomes self-destructive but that's not really what omnipotence entails. 

8 minutes ago, JoshB said:

No one can tell you what is true because there is NO ONE to tell you what is true.

External Truth is literally impossible

 

Do you mean ontological truth as opposed to basic shared reality truth? Clearly it's possibly to learn a lot of truth from other humans. 

[JoshB]

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Omnipotence and infinite power are very tricky because they invalidate reality if done improperly.

For example if we look at geopolitics we can clearly see that one entity that's too powerful ruins the lives of all the others. It doesn't necessarily have to be the case which is why spiral dynamics is such an interesting model.

I think omnipotence has been baked into reality with the pursuit of consciousness so that some entities learn how to become extremely powerful while increasing other's power at the same time without limiting it creating a multiplication effect and a positive sum game. 

So for example by watching Leo's content you become more conscious and thus now your power adds to reality as opposed to detracting from it and also gets him paid which is win-win-win across the board.

If it was not done this way then power becomes self-destructive but that's not really what omnipotence entails. 

 

Do you mean ontological truth as opposed to basic shared reality truth? Clearly it's possibly to learn a lot of truth from other humans. 

There is no basic shared reality this is something you are imagining. Learning from others is just you teaching yourself in another form. 

When you are in a dream where does the source of any truth come from?

Edited 4 hours ago by JoshB

[JoshB]

18 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This might be a creation of The Creator.  

 

[Joseph Maynor]

@JoshB  I just saw Terminator 2 in the theater a few weeks ago.  That is a good movie.  Not sure about 3, I've heard mixed reviews on that one.

[JoshB]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

@JoshB  I just saw Terminator 2 in the theater a few weeks ago.  That is a good movie.  Not sure about 3, I've heard mixed reviews on that one.

2 is Def the best but 3 is pretty good. My point I am trying to make is that YOU ARE IT. It is SO GOOD 

[cetus]

2 hours ago, cetus said:

It would be easier to become pure light than omnipotent.

 

1 hour ago, Davino said:

it was fairly easy

So, this is you now? Do you still drive a car?

[Davino]

2 hours ago, JoshB said:

There is no basic shared reality this is something you are imagining. Learning from others is just you teaching yourself in another form. 

When you are in a dream where does the source of any truth come from?

Please don't conflate absolute truths with relative truths, you're amazing with the firsts but sloppy with the seconds. We've talked about this plenty of times but you keep deconstruct everything into absolutist conscious which backfires your intelligence in human domains and the dream.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

So, this is you now? Do you still drive a car?

Don't be childish, that's rookie levels of Awakenings. I'm way over that years ago.

[JoshB]

17 minutes ago, Davino said:

Please don't conflate absolute truths with relative truths, you're amazing with the firsts but sloppy with the seconds. We've talked about this plenty of times but you keep deconstruct everything into absolutist conscious which backfires your intelligence in human domains and the dream.

Point to something outside of your experience then ill wait

You dont know what my day to day looks like and how I incorporate the relative. 

I dont look to anything besides myself for the highest and most true answers 

Edited 2 hours ago by JoshB

[Leo Gura]

I don't think it is any harder. That's just a function of your unique self.

Why would you expect all insights to be equally accessible to all people? Obviously some insights come more easily to some personalities vs others, just as math comes easy to some but hard to others.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Davino]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't think it is any harder. That's just a function of your unique self.

I see, it might be the same with the Love Awakening that it took me so many years of work to have that proper facet in its full glory. 

I find it hard although to see myself walking on Omnipotence but I'm perfectly aware of my presence everywhere quite easily. 

That shifts the angle of inquiry to why I personal struggle with owning my power as God.

In your video of a Poetic Description of God-Realization you talk about Omnipotence in a very profound way, I'm quite inspired by that. We'll see how my journey unfolds.

Edited 1 hour ago by Davino

[JoshB]

8 minutes ago, Davino said:

I see, it might be the same with the Love Awakening that it took me so many years of work to have that proper facet in its full glory. 

I find it hard although to see myself walking on Omnipotence but I'm perfectly aware of my presence everywhere quite easily. 

That shifts the angle of inquiry to why I personal struggle with owning my power as God.

In your video of a Poetic Description of God-Realization you talk about Omnipotence in a very profound way, I'm quite inspired by that. We'll see how my journey unfolds.

Have you glimpsed Omnipotence at least on a breakthrough trip ? 

It is possible to gain access to a state and lose it 

Edited 1 hour ago by JoshB

[JoshB]

23 minutes ago, Davino said:

 

That shifts the angle of inquiry to why I personal struggle with owning my power as God.

My entire point and case 

[Davino]

26 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Have you glimpsed Omnipotence at least on a breakthrough trip ? 

It is possible to gain access to a state and lose it 

Always partially, I haven't even gotten to that first loop of fully realizing Omnipotence, it comes tangentially with Awakenings on the nature of limits, solipsism, authority, truth, Infinity and God.

[JoshB]

3 minutes ago, Davino said:

Always partially, I haven't even gotten to that first loop of fully realizing Omnipotence, it comes tangentially with Awakenings on the nature of limits, solipsism, authority, truth, Infinity and God.

Honestly I dont care not after your last comment. Its hard enough for me to get through some of this. Theres just my awakening fucking leave out all fhe rest. 

[Carl-Richard]

I walked outside in the rain some days ago and then the day after, I had the Stinky Shoe awakening. Really annoying "facet of the Absolute" to awaken to.

I honestly believe you have two facets of "awakening": transcendence (emptiness, pure being, Oneness) and immanence (love, bliss, kundalini, energy). Whatever else is simply new ways of self-inquiry to tap into such states (or simply having an intellectual understanding of the nature of reality).

You can imagine yourself as a big balloon stretching out infinitely and have the "Infinite Balloon awakening" or imagine the thing that existed before you were born and have the "Pre-Natal awakening" or where you will be after you die and have the "Post-Mortem awakening", or you can realize that these are ways of self-inquiry (the conceptual mind throwing rocks at itself to make it crack) to induce the experiences of transcendence and/or immanence. Omniscience / omnipresence / omnipotence are different conceptual rocks to throw against yourself to make the veil fall.

I personally think a pointer which Leo said once was incredibly effective for me and which you could classify as an omnipotence pointer: "you are creating everything". But the place it lead me, I didn't identify as fundamentally different than where I was lead when I heard and grasped the "you don't exist" pointer. I was just lead there in a different way. As @Eskilon said, omniscience and omnipotence (and I would add omnipresence) are ultimately one; it's just you can look at them from different angles.

And then you of course have stages of Enlightenment, but that's essentially an interplay between the two facets and baseline integrations of those.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Carl-Richard