There Is No Friend-zone on Semen Retention

[Monster Energy]

43 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

If I was me in this video I would have sex with her 

Great. Now ask yourself why is that?

Is it because you believe she is the source of your well-being? You’ve given her the role of the source, but she’s only a trigger for a feeling of wholeness that you actually want.

You don’t really want her form. You want the state she seems to bring you into. That state is already within you, but the illusion is so strong that you can’t see it.

 

[Monster Energy]

52 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Monster Energy jerking off feels empty but so does sex with a random girl have you ever had sex with a woman? And then rolled over and wanted nothing more to do with the situation.  That's emptiness and it is no different.  Sex in general is very empty because it is animalistic.  But it's a part of what we are. When you deny it you will suffer.  This is good spiritually.  But in terms of being more attractive to women..only in the sense that you are already accustomed to not getting anything so you might emit a stronger persona that's not so desperate.  But it can work against you as well.

I agree that sex can feel empty too, especially when there’s no real connection. And I’m not saying people should deny their sexuality. For me, retention is more about not being controlled by the impulse.

I can be horny, enjoy the feeling, and still choose not to act on it. That’s the difference for me.

 

[Monster Energy]

42 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Unless paired with smart social-circle work or cold approach this is mostly self-torture

It’s worth it because you’re no longer a slave to the experience.

 

[Ulax]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Haha! You mean a Magnum solution.  Not a .44 Magnum.  Ever slide one of those puppies on? 😀

I tried but magnum was too small for me 

[Monster Energy]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Maybe. Maybe.  But you can also do the same without self torture if that's the goal.  Now..if you had a real problem with jerking off, then yes. I would say do what you are doing. It's why an alcoholic goes to AA.

If you’ve actually been addicted to something and want to be free from it, you can’t always avoid the discomfort that comes with breaking the pattern. You have to face what’s underneath it. There are no shortcuts. It hurts, then you heal, and eventually you become whole.

 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

I agree that sex can feel empty too, especially when there’s no real connection. And I’m not saying people should deny their sexuality. For me, retention is more about not being controlled by the impulse.

I can be horny, enjoy the feeling, and still choose not to act on it. That’s the difference for me.

 

That's good then.  If you can enforce that type of discipline even when you can do it but you choose not to..that is a good thing.  But also you can choose to.embrace the impulses.  If you were forced to by some outside force most likely you would adhere.  Personally as long as it isn't negatively impacting my life I embrace the impulses. But this is not for everyone and I want to stress that. A lot of people need some sort of discipline or structure to keep it from getting out of hand.

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Monster Energy]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's  good then.  If you can enforce that type of discipline even when you can do it but you choose not to..that is a good thing.  But also you can choose to.embrwce the impulses.  If you were forced to by some outside force most likely you would adhere.  Personally as long as it isn't negatively impacting my life I embrace the impulses. But this is not for everyone and I want to stress that. A lot of people need some sort of discipline or structure to keep it from getting out of hand.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I tried but magnum was too small for me 

Dang! I'm pretty well sized and they were loose. 

[Inliytened1]

25 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Yeah, I agree.

 

I got too lazy to download more porn that's my discipline. 

[something_else]

2 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Fair enough, but you won’t really know until you try it yourself. And the prostate cancer claim is false. There’s no solid evidence that not ejaculating causes prostate cancer.

Semen retention heals the body. It’s a type of fasting, and all forms of fasting are beneficial for human health.

 

It isn’t false, there are several large well respected studies showing that there is a link between ejaculation frequency and prostate cancer.

Ironically ”all forms of fasting are beneficial for human health” is a far broader statement for which there is absolutely no solid evidence for whatsoever.

Some forms of fasting are beneficial to some people.

[Monster Energy]

58 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I got too lazy to download more porn that's my discipline. 

So your greatest act of self-control was simply being too lazy to open a browser. Inspirational. 

 

[Monster Energy]

8 minutes ago, something_else said:

It isn’t false, there are several large well respected studies showing that there is a link between ejaculation frequency and prostate cancer.

Ironically ”all forms of fasting are beneficial for human health” is a far broader statement for which there is absolutely no solid evidence for whatsoever.

Some forms of fasting are beneficial to some people.

There’s no solid evidence showing that not ejaculating causes prostate cancer. You can find studies showing correlations with ejaculation frequency, but that is not the same thing as proving that semen retention causes cancer.

As for fasting, you can argue about the extent of the benefits, but the basic principle is the same. Fasting can be beneficial for the body, and semen retention follows a similar principle of abstaining from something for a period of time.

 

 

[Ulax]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

I got too lazy to download more porn that's my discipline. 

Hahahaha

[Schizophonia]

Ejaculating is a stress reliever so if you ejaculate too often you lose too much energy.

[something_else]

19 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

There’s no solid evidence showing that not ejaculating causes prostate cancer. You can find studies showing correlations with ejaculation frequency, but that is not the same thing as proving that semen retention causes cancer.

 

I didn’t say it causes it, I said it increases the risk. Perhaps still too strong of a statement, but there is certainly strong evidence for a link between the two, which means it quite likely that ejaculating less or not at all increases risk of prostate cancer.

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As for fasting, you can argue about the extent of the benefits, but the basic principle is the same. Fasting can be beneficial for the body, and semen retention follows a similar principle of abstaining from something for a period of time.

This is a lot less absolute of a statement than you first made with “All forms of fasting are beneficial for human health”

You also need to provide an argument for what this principle is, or why fasting as a general rule is good for the body.

Different types of fasting have very different effects and there is no evidence that as a general concept “fasting” is good for the body. Some types of fasting are beneficial for some people, sometimes. That is about as much as has been conclusively proven.

As a very simple counter example, if you are anorexic or severely underweight, fasting is not going to be beneficial for you.

[Monster Energy]

15 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Ejaculating is a stress reliever so if you ejaculate too often you lose too much energy.

Yes

[Someone here]

Kids’ talk.