Relationship Based on Truth, Honesty & Vulnerability

[aurum]

18 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

Yes, a stage green girl with a little bit of yellow is ideal -- but as important, if not more important (which we didn't really discuss), is: have they faced themselves? Have they healed their traumas? Have they integrated their shadows and repressions? Are they in touch with themselves? Do they value honesty, truth, self-reflection and personal growth? Are they capable of being vulnerable?

You are describing all the primary goals and values of SD Green.

[Miguel1]

33 minutes ago, aurum said:

You are describing all the primary goals and values of SD Green.

I have met mostly fake green girls then 

But you are right, trauma work etc. are part of SD Green. But I would say there are levels to it. Basic trauma and inner work is part of it, but we are talking going all the way here.

[LordFall]

47 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

@AION Man , most things in life are counterintuitive and so is dating. Even look at reality of dating - Many attractive guys are single and many desperate guys are getting laid .But the quality of relationships matter too.

Also ask yourself - Are you chasing love and power based on the assumption that it will make you happy ? 

Anyways I don't give a F-- about your opinion. 

Why are you being so antagonistic? Talk about lack of calibration lmao. 

Obviously power is very important in life otherwise you'll be a leaf in the wind unable to control your own fate let alone help others you care about. Why would weakness lead to happiness? Avoidance only goes so far. 

[Rishabh R]

@LordFall I am not telling to be weak but admitting weakness as well as strength leads to power. Domination is the side effect of internal insecurity. As per fate yes you should stand up for yourself when challenged but chasing power leads to powerlessness. Watch - Avoidance of Truth episode by Leo . Also when admitting the fact that you are suffering or feeling bad sorts out people worth being with. Since , acceptance of suffering, questioning assumptions behind suffering is power . I'm not talking about avoidance .I have edited my message now. @Miguel1 Keep being vulnerable speak your mind despite initial hesitation ,express yourself honestly to women . I have noticed in real life recently that when I spoke what I think I woman hurted me but later since another day she started initiating conversations with me and we had multiple joyful conversations.

Edited 1 hour ago by Rishabh R

[LordFall]

8 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

@LordFall I am not telling to be weak but admitting weakness as well as strength leads to power. Domination is the side effect of internal insecurity. As per fate yes you should stand up for yourself when challenged but chasing power leads to powerlessness. Watch - Avoidance of Truth episode by Leo . Also when admitting the fact that you are suffering or feeling bad sorts out people worth being with. Since , acceptance of suffering, questioning assumptions behind suffering is power . I'm not talking about avoidance .

Absolutely I think finding security in false power is a fool's errand and being able to admit your shortcomings is the hallmark of a confident leader. I don't really believe in overemphasizing your weaknesses just in owning them like Tyrion tells Jon Snow in the first episode of Game of Thrones"Never forget what you are for the world will not."

I've watched most of Leo's videos. Can you explain how in your experience chasing power leads to powerlessness? I am very weary of vague spiritual ideas unless people can back them up with substance otherwise to me it feels like fortune cookie generic sayings that are true in some cases and not in others and aren't useful guidelines to live your life by. 

[Rishabh R]

@LordFall Ok fine. Like for example just simple honest expression of one's intentions ,thoughts and feelings is enough. Chasing power means thinking that you are above others or better than others since you have got a lot of sex , material possessions than other person. For example : When I was in college other guys made fun of me infront of their girlfriends and they bullied me for the fact that I am less than them since they have dated multiple girls and I am single. Even girls in my batch mistreated me but as soon as I (honestly speaking from lived experience ) expressed myself honestly despite initial nervousness 1 of them flirted with me multiple times on her own ,another one later came to me and talked in a respectful ,friendly manner after I withdrew from her bullying group and the batch crush approached me . Yup so expressing your both strength and weakness is power but it must be honest from inside out. Since ,if it isn't honest then it will come off as inauthentic and needy .Also , @LordFall yup owning weakness rather than overemphasising them is true vulnerability , you're right .By the way sorry @AION I typed my response in an impulsive manner . 

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[AION]

@Rishabh R why did you get angry though 

[Rishabh R]

@AION I'm sorry but I didn't got angry I just typed that impulsively .Sorry dude.And I became impulsive because I have been a subscriber of Manson's courses, read his book Subtle Art , Models multiple times. And it's helped me a lot. But I didn't wanted to hurt you dude.

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[LordFall]

25 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

@LordFall Ok fine. Like for example just simple honest expression of one's intentions ,thoughts and feelings is enough. Chasing power means thinking that you are above others or better than others since you have got a lot of sex , material possessions than other person. For example : When I was in college other guys made fun of me infront of their girlfriends and they bullied me for the fact that I am less than them since they have dated multiple girls and I am single. Even girls in my batch mistreated me but as soon as I (honestly speaking from lived experience ) expressed myself honestly despite initial nervousness 1 of them flirted with me multiple times on her own ,another one later came to me and talked in a respectful ,friendly manner after I withdrew from her bullying group and the batch crush approached me . Yup so expressing your both strength and weakness is power but it must be honest from inside out. Since ,if it isn't honest then it will come off as inauthentic and needy .Also , @LordFall yup owning weakness rather than overemphasising them is true vulnerability , you're right .By the way sorry @AION I typed my response in an impulsive manner . 

Thanks for sharing, sorry you had to go through that. I think your definition of chasing power is more about coercive power and ego than actual power though. 

I like this definition centered more around your ability to influence others and thus the world. I would say that your bullying incident occurred because you didn't have enough power and status in that environment so insecure guys used your vulnerability as a tool to try and increase their own status. That type of insecure power is usually short lasting because it creates enemies wherever you go because the people that use it are using situational status as a tool of leverage as opposed to true power which just comes from being a source of abundance. 

I don't know you but maybe you're a smart nerd archetype and that guy instead of bullying you could've pitched you a business deal and you guys could've made money together. Truly powerful people don't burn bridges because it catches up to you. There are a few counter examples like president of the united states but that tale has not been fully written yet and if I had to bet that's gonna blow up in his face in an incredible manner so I still say that his life strategy is weaker than it could've been. 

This is a cool video and I highly recommend watching the whole movie. It also shares your view that dominance is power applied incorrectly and the true artful way of doing it is inducement where you seduce someone to your way of thinking as opposed to coercing them into it.

The movie is about Professor William Moulton Marston who invented the character Wonder-woman, an early version of the polygraph and was openly polyamorous in the 40s while teaching at Harvard. Legend. 

Edited 45 minutes ago by LordFall

[Rishabh R]

@LordFall Haha basically I was talking about like internal power like for example resilience - basically acceptance of challenges etc. which causes better quality of relationships to stay in your life even though they might be few .Okay fine which way suits you . I am nobody to tell. 😁

[LordFall]

13 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

@LordFall Haha basically I was talking about like internal power like for example resilience - basically acceptance of challenges etc. which causes better quality of relationships to stay in your life even though they might be few .Okay fine which way suits you . I am nobody to tell. 😁

Your opinion is valid, it's simply that political science is already mapped out so I don't see a reason to deviate from their definitions. I you are right that emotional resilience is a subset of what leads an individual to achieve power because if you get stressed and break down when things get tough you will never be able to gain leverage in society. 

Power is important in dating because it reflects the resources you will be able to command from your society.

Stage 0 is you have no power at all and are dependent on others to live.

Stage 1 is you have a job and are able to sustain yourself.

Stage 2 is your job allows you to sustain others as well

Stage 3 is you start to build systems to not only earn income from the system of another aka your job

Stage 4 your systems become sustainable enough to elevate your life and the life of others around you

Stage 5 your systems become so consequential that you shape your society and civilization and you are part of local/federal/geopolitics

Step 0 is kind of like an incel and you can hardly date from there. Step 2 is a traditional relationship. Stage 5 I believe is at the reach of a lot of people reading this and I think is worth striving for which is why I will defend chasing power as a tool of both making your own life better but also to be able to personally assist in the evolution of consciousness and mankind. 

It will also be much more exciting for a woman to date a man higher up in the stages of power as literally you're part of the plot of the world and can do both fun things but also shape the story of our species instead of a leaf in the wind, a wage slave or a random dude however you wanna put it. 

Edited 24 minutes ago by LordFall

[Rishabh R]

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