Professor Dave goes off on Destiny and Israel 🇮🇱

[Husseinisdoingfine]

One of his best political commentaries. 

I will say, on politics, Professor Dave is actually really good. Better than Destiny, if anything.

 

[Leo Gura]

Destiny's position on Israel is probably his worst.

[Schizophonia]

He's so lethargic and pretentious at the same time he's unbearable I couldn't get through the intro.

There is something suspicious about the way Westerners are taking an interest in this conflict. Once again it looks like an attempt to project things easily without having to confront one's own life.

 

A mirror note: I am projecting my own pretension onto Dave; I in turn am pretentious about "Westerners."

When I am truly no longer pretentious the projection will vanish along with it.

Edited yesterday at 10:28 AM by Schizophonia

[Stick]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Destiny's position on Israel is probably his worst.

what about professor dave's position on leo gura lol

[Nivsch]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Destiny's position on Israel is probably his worst.

Why do you think so?

[Recursoinominado]

31 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Why do you think so?

I mean, pretty hard for a liberal to have a worse position than that... 

[Nivsch]

7 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

I mean, pretty hard for a liberal to have a worse position than that... 

Which specific positions of him you disagree with, and why?

[Recursoinominado]

10 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Which specific positions of him you disagree with, and why?

Timestamp 1:00:00:

He literally said he is pro genocide. “I’m pro genocide… Palestinians can go live in another place.”
I mean, indefensable take if you are not a psychopath or completely brainwashed/uninformed. 
I would even be charitable and believe he said this for shock value and must have a more nuanced opinion but this is probably where his more "nuanced" opinions go in the end. So... pretty bad take for a liberal. He also laughed when it was reported that children were being targeted by Israelis soldiers. "Where should they aim if not head and chest?" (something like that). There are many more takes like this.

Basically, he denies any bad intent from Israel when this is vastly well documented.

[eos_nyxia]

I'm know I'm not his intended target audience, but unless something immediately grabs me about a particular online personality, why am I supposed to care about Destiny's or anyone else's political opinions?

Please explain the appeal someone lol.

[gengar]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Destiny's position on Israel is probably his worst.

"probably"

He literally said to IDF soldiers that they shouldn't stream putting on clothes of raided Palestinian homes and just do it in secret because its bad PR

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, gengar said:

"probably"

I don't know what other stupid views he holds.

[Nivsch]

7 hours ago, gengar said:

"probably"

He literally said to IDF soldiers that they shouldn't stream putting on clothes of raided Palestinian homes and just do it in secret because its bad PR

Criminals are criminals. No matter if they are soldiers in war zones or civilians anywhere else in the world.

Edited 8 hours ago by Nivsch

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Everything would be way much simpler, if people ceased to identify to their ideas and stories.

nope you're not jew, christian, muslim or bozo the clown.

wake the fuck up.

 

[Karmadhi]

On 7/29/2026 at 0:07 PM, Leo Gura said:

Destiny's position on Israel is probably his worst.

I would love to understand where it comes from

I recall you once said "He is pro American" but being pro American does not automatically mean you should like Israel

Bernie Sanders is pro American

John Mearsheimer is pro American

Tucker Carlson is pro American

Taylor Green is pro American

You have tons of pro Americans that are critical of Israel

My first guess would be racism or islamophobia (since 95% of pro Israelis these days are massively islamophobic) but from other clips Destiny does not come off that way when it comes to other topics

I read once he was getting paid by Israel which is the only logical conclusion I can come out to

You know him better than me, why is his view on this topic so so bad?

 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

You know him better than me, why is his view on this topic so so bad?

I'm just guessing, but I think his view is that the Israelis are just so much more developed than the Palestians that the Israelis should be sided with.

Bill Maher has a similar view. He just sees the Palestinians as too backward, too medieval, too ideological, too anti-Western.

It's a very simplistic but pragmatic position, not a moral one.

Most Americans simply cannot see any validity in Islamic terrorism. Terrorism breaks some people's minds.

I doubt Destiny needs to be paid. He just believes it.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Karmadhi]

22 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Which specific positions of him you disagree with, and why?

I know you did not ask me but I can answer on my side

-He ignores the insane power balance between Israel and Palestine

-He ignores that Israel has killed like 30x more Palestinians and has caused way way more suffering to Palestinians than the other way around

-He ignores Palestinian historical grievences including ethnic cleansing and tons of atrocities they have endured for decades

-He believes Palestinians should just give up and submit, which in itself is not unreasonable but does not hold the same view for Ukraine. When it comes to Ukraine it is fine for them to fight a much stronger foe for their land but Palestinians should just submit 

-He says Israel is hated because it is a Jewish state 

-He always holds the side of Israel and believes Palestinians are the cause of the conflict

[Karmadhi]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Bill Maher has a similar view. He just sees the Palestinians as too backward, too medieval, too ideological, too anti-Western.

Bill Maher is a mega islamophobe to be honest and blames everything wrong in Middle East to Islam and passionately shits on Muslims

He is way more bigoted than Destiny is

It is hilarious to me that people like Bill call Palestinians anti Western because the whole reason they do not like the West and USA is  because of unfair things that happened to them

It is West fault they are anti Western

it is like saying Ukranians are anti Russians

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm just guessing, but I think his view is that the Israelis are just so much more developed than the Palestians that the Israelis should be sided with.

It is crazy to me that someone would believe this given so much hate towards USA comes because they support Israel unconditionally

I fully understand the logic although it triggers me a lot personally (green bias hehe)

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a very simplistic but pragmatic position, not a moral one.

I understand  

Thanks for the analysis Leo

To be fair I have seen so much hate and genocidal remarks from Israelis including random citizens that I can no longer hold them in the same development category as western countries

They are not a civilized society I feel but typical Middle Eastern brutes

Edited 2 hours ago by Karmadhi

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Bill Maher is a mega islamophobe to be honest and blames everything wrong in Middle East to Islam and passionately shits on Muslims

I think that stems from his atheism. Atheists like Sam Harris and Chris Hitchens tend to be very anti-anything-Islam. Destiny also falls in that camp.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Karmadhi]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I think that stems from his atheism. Atheists like Sam Harris and Chris Hitchens tend to be very anti-anything-Islam. Destiny also falls in that camp.

A true Atheist would be against all religious extremism

A lot of Israeli devilry comes from Judaism extremism

Also you have Christian nutcases in the American government doing damage to USA and also some perform war crimes in African countries

Yet they are not called out by these people

Not to mention Budhist extremism in Myanmar or Hindu extremism in India

Calling out only 1 religion extremism shows to me a huge anti Islam bias more than an Atheist bias

Which is why I called the guy Islamophobic 

I am personally not religious at all but I do not only call out 1 religion extremism, but extremisim in itself

How come they do not call out the Israeli religious extremism (Judaism extremism) in the Israeli-Palestine conflict as much as they call out the Islamic extremism of Palestinians in groups like Hamas?

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Karmadhi

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

How come they do not call out the Israeli religious extremism

Western bias. But also because Israel has other redeeming qualities like a tech sector and democracy.

You can't argue that Palestinians aren't super backwards developmentally. Their religious extremists are more extreme.

Say what you will about Netanyahu, but he is no religious fanatic. He is a very rational, pragmatic guy. Atheists can relate to him. They can't relate to Yahya Sinwar.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura