why women fall for narcissists

[Magnanimous]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Narcissists also offer lots of emotional drama, which is like chick crack.

A mature man is too boring for an immature woman. She needs the excitement of emotional drama.

Leo bro a newbie question but why do girls like emotional drama? What kind do they like?

Me and the guys we don't get it. Why would a person want drama in their life?

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes but it’s the same thing; you’d be more forgiving of a pretty girl than of a girl who looks like a rhinoceros.

Of course.

Guys would sleep with a serial killer girl. In this respect it is symmetrical.

3 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Leo bro a newbie question but why do girls like emotional drama? What kind do they like?

Me and the guys we don't get it. Why would a person want drama in their life?

You love drama too! You don't want a boring life either.

Girls like drama because they love feelings. It makes her feel. Girls would rather feel negative than feel nothing.

Attracting girls is all about making them feel things. Narcs excel at manipulating feelings.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Monster Energy]

Just now, Magnanimous said:

Leo bro a newbie question but why do girls like emotional drama? What kind do they like?

Me and the guys we don't get it. Why would a person want drama in their life?

A life without drama feels boring to an immature woman. To her, drama is dopamine, and without it, life feels empty and lifeless. That’s why she chases men who give her excitement and make her feel alive.

 

[Leo Gura]

Liking drama is like clickbait. Social media is all about platforming drama.

[Monster Energy]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Liking drama is like clickbait. Social media is all about platforming drama.

Consciousness likes drama 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Consciousness likes drama 

Yes, that's the point of the dream.

[LordFall]

@Olaf  I think you're on to something a lot of times with women initially meeting you it's like a frame battle; which one reacts more to the other. In general women are not particularly attracted to clinical narcissism, more signals of high social value, emotional stimulation, and boldness.

I think if we're gonna study the surface traits that make dark triad appealing we have to look at psychopathy and not only narcissism.

The low empathy and emotionality will initially be boldness and lack of approach anxiety and the high impulsivity and thrill seeking will make for like exciting adventures and dates on the surface. Ala coke dealer game type of thing. Psychopaths are terrible at accruing value long term though because they don't have fear so they lack self-preservation, it's a pretty ironic correction mechanism.

Also dark triad men are probably good at intimidating other men and thus look higher status and win frames battles with them initially so that is an attraction trigger for women as well. 

Overall it's best to just accrue a lot of value and be a dependable and empathic human being so women trust you, like being around you and you're able to fight the dominance hierarchy on their behalf and give them good emotions but on your terms.

[Zenterus]

Read through the replies on page one and I find that there're a lot of false assumptions there. 

Are women attracted to confidence, even dysfunctional forms of it? Yes. However, a woman's willingness to date or engage sexually with a man is still a choice she has to make.

Men are attracted to beauty, but many men will reject a crazy woman even if she's beautiful especially if they've had a negative experience in the past with crazy. Same goes with women. Immature women may date a narcissistic guy, but after they experience what that is like, they can make the conscious choice not to date a narcissist, even though they might be feeling attracted to them initially.

[Olaf]

@LordFall This posts intention is not to turn people here in psychopaths or narcissists. Rather to understand why woman fall for them and also why you have many codependent women who bring their own problems to a relationship, not only the narcissists, codependents are also toxic and haven´t healed. Someone with self-respect and maturity won´t get into such relationships, or at least not stay in it for any long time. 

[LordFall]

11 minutes ago, Olaf said:

@LordFall This posts intention is not to turn people here in psychopaths or narcissists. Rather to understand why woman fall for them and also why you have many codependent women who bring their own problems to a relationship, not only the narcissists, codependents are also toxic and haven´t healed. Someone with self-respect and maturity won´t get into such relationships, or at least not stay in it for any long time. 

You can't really turn yourself into a narcissistic or psychopath apart from incurring massive trauma. It's important to understand in which ways these type of people succeed in the world and to learn from them to become effective ourselves. CEOs and surgeons for example have way higher psychopathy than the median population because they are better able to stay calm under pressure. We can similarly use a meditation habit to gain presence and emotional regulation and end up able to handle pressure better than the average person.

It's not a coincidence that the Power of Now and Eckart Tolle are highly reverred amongst pick up artists. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[vibv]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, that's the point of the dream.

And, boy, does it have layers.

[LordFall]

41 minutes ago, vibv said:

And, boy, does it have layers.

How thicc are those layers though? That's the most important question for a serious intellect  

[vibv]

12 minutes ago, LordFall said:

How thicc are those layers though? That's the most important question for a serious intellect  

We're gonna find out.

We're inside a world-building seed that just entered a new phase, within a phase, within a phase, within a phase, and so on...

Everything's gonna turn upside down, and then all around.

TWIST's the name of the game, and boy, does it deserve it.

It's not just a dream, but an infinitely complex metaphysical ontological structure.

It's all building up to a single point, that you could call: An Ontological Orgasm. And we recently passed the point of no return.

This won't be quick, it will savour every single moment of it, and it's impossible to miss because all soul-lines will converge into that point I talked about through an impossible, mind-bending, mind-fucking, gobsmacking, paradoxical spectacle.

It's a bit hard to put into words, but I'll keep trying.

At some point, only poetry suffices.

How do I know all that? I don't, but IT does.

Edited 1 hour ago by vibv

[Optimized Life]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Women do seem to be drawn to narcs like magnets.

Don't underestimate how many utterly foolish and immature women are in the dating pool. They are not thinking about the consequences of dating a Trump/Tate.

Not just some women, most women will be drawn to it.

Do not forget that a character like Trump is charming in person. In the news media is very different.

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The Highest Form Of Game Is Being God

July 13, 2026

@Leo Gura How do you reconcile this apparent contradiction???

Are you saying : Tate's narcissistic level of game is like 8/10 but god game is 10/10, even higher and more potent? ..

i Would appreciate an answer because this contradiction is annoying 

P.S it's obvious that narcissism > being a shy, meek, autistic nerd 

But what about super confident and charming god guy whos also a good guy? does he get more girls than tate?   

Edited 1 hour ago by Optimized Life

[LordFall]

5 minutes ago, vibv said:

We're gonna find out.

We're inside a world-building seed that just entered a new phase, within a phase, within a phase, within a phase, and so on...

Everything's gonna turn upside down, and then all around.

TWIST's the name of the game, and boy, does it deserve it.

It's not just a dream, but an infinitely complex metaphysical ontological structure.

It's all building up to a single point, that you could call: An Ontological Orgasm. And we recently passed the point of no return.

This won't be quick, it will savour every single moment of it, and it's impossible to miss because all soul-lines will converge into that point I talked about through an impossible, mind-bending, mind-fucking, gobsmacking, paradoxical spectacle.

It's a bit hard to put into words, but I'll keep trying.

At some point, only poetry suffices.

How do I know all that? I don't, but IT does.

So quite thicc then

I think what you're pointing towards is post scarcity and mankind conquering the universe 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[vibv]

2 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

i Would appreciate an answer because this contradiction is annoying 

With that attitude you're gonna be quite annoyed at Life at some point  ✨

[vibv]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

So quite thicc then

I think what you're pointing towards is post scarcity and mankind conquering the universe 

This is way beyond humanity, but it needs an anchoring point to be experienced. Which is us.

[LordFall]

6 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

@Leo Gura How do you reconcile this apparent contradiction???

Are you saying : Tate's narcissistic level of game is like 8/10 but god game is 10/10, even higher and more potent? ..

i Would appreciate an answer because this contradiction is annoying 

Tate is a rich manipulative multimillionnaire, that's like 12/10 in terms of getting laid. God game is being satisfied with life. If you want to use high levels of consciousness to get laid that just means using truth to find the most efficient ways possible to get laid while taking care of the women you sleep with at the same time. To me that's social circle game and social media game as that combines all the highlights of someone like Tate while removing all the downsides. I talk about it more here 

@vibv Why would it be beyond humanity? Do you have proof of this or this is an intuition you have? 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[vibv]

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 

@vibv Why would it be beyond humanity? Do you have proof of this or this is an intuition you have? 

This is a Knowing. I can't explain it, it's just there.

I'm pretty sure you can access it, too, if you let go of your sanity.

Sanity acts like a shield against those things. Only by going beyond sanity will you know GOD.

But be warned, there's things you can't reverse once seen.

If you want some directions: What do you know if you just KNOW? As soon as you start to question it or try to verify it with your logical mind it slips away.

Edited 1 hour ago by vibv

[Optimized Life]

@LordFall Dude i appreciate your response but unless leo answers my question directly, within the context of the exact qoute i am referring to, then this contradiction will never be resolved. 

Leo literally said himself "pussy flocks to you when you are god" or something like that, i want to understand what this means and again, he specifically said that being god is THE HIGHEST level of game ..

No one here can related to or suddenly just become a mega millionaire celebrity or build some crazy social circle, i am interesting in game, mindset, ect.. these things are in my control, and way more realistic to implement in the short term. 

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To me that's social circle game and social media game as that combines all the highlights of someone like Tate while removing all the downsides. I talk about it more here 

Social circle game is exhausting and extremely difficult to implement for a normal person, who is busy grinding and working 60-80 hours a week to make it and prefers independence, good if it works for you but it isnt sustianable or universal at all, having said that i will consider it when im rich and have a more free schedule and better logistics, as i am not a close minded person anymore, but i really dont see the point when you can just cut to the chase and approach, it also feels kinda fake and lame, i really am not diggin it.

Edited 1 hour ago by Optimized Life