Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Wilhelm44]

20 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

For me personally, I’ve simply unraveled myself until there was no more me.

 

To me personally…words that sound spiritual is just meaningless jargon, an artificially invented dogma that has no sense of meaning or purpose whatsoever. Words to me, are just a bunch of meaningless nonsense that I have used to build a sense of personal identity with, they have been something that has shaped my character, in the belief that this character is real. 
 

But I instinctively knew that character wasn’t real, that’s when I had to unravel it, and that’s all I did, without using any drug either. Never imbibed an hallucinogenic substance in my entire life. Didn’t need to. 

So when the God realization people say, they have realized themselves as the "Infinite Mind, which is imagining all of this", how do you view that statement ?

Edited 5 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, James123 said:

Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah.

You got it.

Yeah, it took every last breath from my body. I’m sailing without a sail now. There’s no wind in my sail anymore.

It’s lighter than a feather. Just pure effortless being. Going nowhere, doing nothing, infinitely for eternity, including this story. 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So when the God realization people say, they have realized themselves as "Infinite Mind imagining all of this", how do you view that statement ?

I view it as they’ve said nothing. But not in a negative derogatory sense. It’s just all blah blah blah noise to me personally.

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I view it as they’ve said nothing. But not in a negative derogatory sense. It’s just all blah blah blah noise to me personally.

So would it be fair to say that none of the God realization people have had a permanent cessation of the sense of separate self ? 

[cetus]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I view it as they’ve said nothing. But not in a negative derogatory sense. It’s just all blah blah blah noise to me personally.

Sure, words are just symbols, but you don't relate to the experience being conveyed by the words? 

[James123]

19 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yeah, it took every last breath from my body. I’m sailing without a sail now. There’s no wind in my sail anymore.

It’s lighter than a feather. Just pure effortless being. Going nowhere, doing nothing, infinitely for eternity, including this story. 

Good good.

But be careful, mind is so smart. Too smart.

Only way to win the mind is to loose towards it, not to fight with it.

Accept the defeat, and tell it that it is the king of the body, controller, not You.

And step aside.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

Good good.

But be careful, mind is so smart. Too smart.

Only way to win the mind is to loose towards it, not to fight with it.

Accept the defeat, and tell it that it is the king of the body, controller, not You.

And step aside.

 

Good good 👍🙌  hallefuckinglujah!!

[Mellowmarsh]

On 16/07/2026 at 7:37 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

My favorite Nisargadatta quote:

"The difference between you and me is that I don't mind what happens."

Dude was gangster 

Btw, quotes like that are open to interpretation.

The way I interpret the quote is to mean.. I have no mind to control what happens, either something happens or it doesn’t, like split milk can never return to its unspilt state. There’s just what’s happening in the immediacy of an event, where nothing causes what seems to have happened in effect upon the minds reflection.
 

The mind is always on reflection of what’s already happened. So this mind is a mirage, it’s an illusion, it doesn’t exist anywhere in the world of things because things are made of mind that are made of illusory constructed labels.
 

 

[Wilhelm44]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Btw, quotes like that are open to interpretation.

The way I interpret the quote is to mean.. I have no mind to control what happens, either something happens or it doesn’t, like split milk can never return to its unspilt state. There’s just what’s happening in the immediacy of an event, where nothing causes what seems to have happened in effect upon the minds reflection.
 

The mind is always on reflection of what’s already happened. So this mind is a mirage, it’s an illusion, it doesn’t exist anywhere in the world of things because things are made of mind that are made of illusory constructed labels.
 

 

Wow, thank you🙂

[Mellowmarsh]

53 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So would it be fair to say that none of the God realization people have had a permanent cessation of the sense of separate self ? 

They’ve had an imagined cessation, not a real one, because it’s not a cessation that a “ someone “ has. 
There’s just the instant recognition that there simply nothing that separates this from that, and no one is having that recognition. It’s just a smoke and mirror effect. Nothing actually there to not be there.

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

They’ve had an imagined cessation, not a real one, because it’s not a cessation that a “ someone “ has. 
There’s just the instant recognition that there simply nothing that separates this from that, and no one is having that recognition. It’s just a smoke and mirror effect. Nothing actually there to not be there.

I seem to be experiencing it as a gradual unravelling of the sense of a separate self, just by listening to Jim. For you it was instantaneous, in a flash, done, no more sense of separate self ?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

Sure, words are just symbols, but you don't relate to the experience being conveyed by the words? 

For the sense of self, there’s nothing else for that sense of self to relate to other than the word of self. Identification. 

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I seem to be experiencing it as a gradual unravelling of the sense of a separate self, just by listening to Jim. For you it was instantaneous, in a flash, done, no more sense of separate self ?

Yes, for me it was an instantaneous, spontaneous for want of a better word.

 

I’d been trying to understand myself from the moment I became aware of myself at the age of 4 or 5 

I was naturally drawn to nondual teaching. Then after looking into that teaching, it wasn’t long before the Big Bang happened, where my whole body exploded into nothingness. Lol that’s how I like to describe my experience anyway, albeit illusory. Lol

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, for me it was an instantaneous, spontaneous for want of a better word.

 

I’d been trying to understand myself from the moment I became aware of myself at the age of 4 or 5 

I was naturally drawn to nondual teaching. Then after looking into that teaching, it wasn’t long before the Big Bang happened, where my whole body exploded into nothingness. Lol that’s how I like to describe my experience anyway, albeit illusory. Lol

So if I may ask, was it a huge energetic experience in the body, thunder and lightning etc ?  Terrifying, or were you already significantly prepared for it to be experienced, or not experienced, more just as Glorious etc ?

[Wilhelm44]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

For the sense of self, there’s nothing else for that sense of self to relate to other than the word of self. Identification. 

 

 

I think that perhaps what Cetus was pointing to, is that maybe you dont relate to the experience (God realization etc) being described by the words, because you haven't done psychedelics ?

[Joseph Maynor]

There seems to be a need to agree or disagree that is the crux of these discussions.

[ZeroZeroes]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

In a nutshell, no one has ever experienced a solid world of physical manifestation, because it’s an illusion, what feels physical is actually the effect of a non-physical electromagnetic invisible force field, where matter or form and sensation of solidity is an illusory effect of the force field .

It’s an illusory effect of the mind, not the force field. Saying it’s a force field causing it instead of the rock assumes the rock is illusory but the force field is real. Yet believing it was the “non-physical electromagnetic invisible force field” is multiple more hallucinations away than rock since it’s even more concepts and beliefs added on.
Also force fields are a part of the physical paradigm, it is invisible, not non-physical. So rather than:

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

what feels physical is actually the effect of a non-physical electromagnetic invisible force field

It would say: “what feels physical is actually the effect of a physical electromagnetic invisible force field.”
Reductionism won't show the illusory nature of things. Because it reinforces the non-illusory nature of whatever is claimed to be the actual cause of the phenomena.

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

none of the God realization people have had a permanent cessation of the sense of separate self ? 

Consider the possibility that there are actually no people. Never was. A radical claim I am making. Can it be proven? That’s for you to discover  

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So would it be fair to say that none of the God realization people have had a permanent cessation of the sense of separate self ? 

The permanent cessation of the separate self is unnecessary and a myth. It is enough to completely dissolve separation in meditation and, in daily life, perceive the transparency of separation. But separation exists; it is real.

All those non-dualistic teachers who go to the forest do so because their mothers feed them. Without their mothers and their bottles, they would face the reality of life. All that would be absolutely legitimate if they would admit the reality of separation of the form and the intelligence of the reality finding the optimal possibility, but no, they affirm that everything is illusion 

Then we could say: there is no separate self if others who work hard feed me, since I deserve it and they are unconscious fools.

Then, since nothing matters, I give lectures and write books to earn millions and be idolized. I do this work because I don't care. Ah, from now on call me "primordial peace of the morning full of spring dew". In Indian, please. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Breakingthewall

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Consider the possibility that there are actually no people. Never was. A radical claim I am making. Can it be proven? That’s for you to discover  

Jim Newman makes the same radical claim.