Are Love and Goodness identical?

[emil1234]

I've had some awakenings at this point, the most major of which involves Love and Goodness. At one level, these two seems almost completely inseperable, completely identical and the same; but on the other, I have had experiences of this universal force, Nothingness, that just says this pure; "I love you", and nothing else.

At another level, I've experienced the universe as almost an abstract form of formless Goodness without opposite. 

Sometimes the two seem identical - Love IS Goodness and Goodness IS Love - but if im not deluding myself, it seems they can also be experienced as kind of seperate phenomena? 

out of curoisity, what are your opinions / experiences on this?

Edited Monday at 06:47 PM by emil1234

[Razard86]

They are the same yes but you can experience them as an absolute/singularity onto themselves

[emil1234]

@Razard86 very interesting, this is also my excact interpretation so far. So at the highest level the two merge as one? So far I would say i've mainly experienced them seperately, but they both carry aspects of eachother - Love inherintly contains Goodness and Goodness inherintly contains love

Edited Monday at 07:48 PM by emil1234

[Ziran]

 

11 hours ago, emil1234 said:

Sometimes the two seem identical - Love IS Goodness and Goodness IS Love - but if im not deluding myself, it seems they can also be experienced as kind of seperate phenomena? 

out of curoisity, what are your opinions / experiences on this?

Love, in its purest form, is "out-reaching".  Nothing more, nothing less.  It exists at the extreme end of a spectrum opposite Restraint. 

Restraining <<<>>> Out-Reaching

Respect <<<>>> Love

In common parlance, when people refer to Love, they're referring to healthy Love which is "nurturing".  However, sometimes, as you're observing, Love isn't always good.  Love isn't always nurturing. 

When Love is nurturing it is partnered with Respect/Restraint.  Lacking Respect/Restraint Love becomes unhealthy, inappropriate.   The classic example of unhealthy love is a parent who loves their child, the rapist, and gives them safe harbor, hiding them from authorities. 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Ziran

[Yimpa]

Your question has sparked me to watch this episode. I don’t think I’ve seen it before:

 

[Yimpa]

All differences are dreamed up by Infinity and there are infinite facets to this Goodness?

[Someone here]

I don’t think they are identical but they are an expression of the same energy or force . That is a feminine energy . Or maybe it’s the other way around ..the feminine energy is an expression of the love and goodness energy . But there can’t be feminine without masculine and vice versa. 
in Sufism (Islamic mysticism) there is something called “ Jalal and Jamal” . Jamal literally means beauty . God is beautiful..good..loving ..merciful ..like a rose or like romance and sex or music etc .

jalal means majesty and mighty . God is also profound and masculine .. like a thunderbolt.. a mountain..death ..etc  

no matter how you try to “absoluteize” the Jamal part without distorting its meaning it can’t work .  Whenever you say “Love “ you can’t help but think about “love “.

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Someone here