Should I Leave a Loving Relationship for Growth and Intellectual Compatibility?

[LordFall]

Sure but I think it's 90% coping. Most guys have never dated 20 super hotties let alone one. Also attracting hot women presupposes a lot of attractive qualities that they probably have not developed. It's also a sign of weak epistemology because a lot of them fall into a religious shame paradigm that they've never questioned or just never got into pickup and dating advice which seems like a strange thing to omit since dating is one of the core fields in life.

A super hottie is an easy example to prove or falsify but also most people have terrible communication skills so they bicker and fight in their relationship constantly. They have never bothered to read a book on conversation as well so it goes back to my point on being lazy. 

The status thing is a better trait to examine because status is basically an honest signal of value. So if you have no status you're probably low value or low skill in areas of life that matter. Status is a strange one because it's a zero sum game so not everyone can be high status but maybe they can be in the next few decades with the complexifying economy we're entering into. 

It's not a shame based statement but I think it's pretty close to a fact. I'm not as high status as I could be and I'm working to become better at my craft to become more recognized in my industry and in the world as a whole. 

 

[integral]

41 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Sure but I think it's 90% coping. Most guys have never dated 20 super hotties let alone one. Also attracting hot women presupposes a lot of attractive qualities that they probably have not developed. It's also a sign of weak epistemology because a lot of them fall into a religious shame paradigm that they've never questioned or just never got into pickup and dating advice which seems like a strange thing to omit since dating is one of the core fields in life.

A super hottie is an easy example to prove or falsify but also most people have terrible communication skills so they bicker and fight in their relationship constantly. They have never bothered to read a book on conversation as well so it goes back to my point on being lazy. 

It's true that a lot of them are coping

The problem with the question of asking them if they want a 10 or not is that it's a general question that everyone wants.

Obviously I would want to bang a 10 why not? But we're talking about a larger worldview and way of life here where just because I want something doesn't mean I'm going to organize my whole life around getting this thing, It takes a whole other level of caring about this and becoming obsessed and passionate about it to actually pursue it like it's that meaningful.

People don't find this that meaningful in general.

To be deluded to think having a 10 and wanting a 10/10 relationship is all that meaningful.

Most people really don't care that much, if they really care then they're already doing pick up. Most of the people that want the 10 are also in the same group of people that want the Ferrari and all these things that they can't have it and they have resentment and jealousy, so they cope hard. 

When people get their self-esteems needs Met they don't really care that much about any of this.

But that doesn't mean that they can't benefit from Reading 20 books in relationships, doing pick up or a learning networking skills, that's another topic.

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The status thing is a better trait to examine because status is basically an honest signal of value. So if you have no status you're probably low value or low skill in areas of life that matter. Status is a strange one because it's a zero sum game so not everyone can be high status but maybe they can be in the next few decades with the complexifying economy we're entering into. 

 

When you say value what do you mean? Value to society? Who are they valuable to? Besides the Elon Musk that are Reinventing the transportation system, the average person has some bullshit business convincing people to buy things they shouldn't ( like Vape), built some bullshit Network, jacking off some more bullshit people. A circle jerk of rich people, they go on vacation as often as possible. They read only books on how not to lose all their money. And so on. Bankrupt values.

A person with unexamined values is of no value from a systems level perspective. They are all a leech to society.

Are they going to reinvest that into the greater good? No never.

The vast majority of people building any welt only benefit themselves and their immediate family.

And when they accumulate enough wealth they spend it corrupting larger systems at every opportunity.

I assume that would be read in the most judgmental way possible.

My uncle's side of the family built highly successful clothing brands, Vape brands and so on.

I don't see the value they contributed to anything. And none of them have ever done self-development.

And I'm not above this, I built a sports betting platform, by Commission and im getting a percentage from all bets on the platform. But I'm not delusional here thinking that I'm done anything of high value. ( the platform is not released yet, issues with the lawyers)

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It's not a shame based statement but I think it's pretty close to a fact. I'm not as high status as I could be and I'm working to become better at my craft to become more recognized in my industry and in the world as a whole.

I noticed your work and I was wondering why you're not posting daily self development content while building a brand around a life coaching business? I figured that would be the main focus where you're Building yourself brand?

Edited 3 hours ago by integral

[LordFall]

15 minutes ago, integral said:

 

To be deluded to think having a 10 and wanting a 10/10 relationship is all that meaningful.

What's more meaningful than the relationship you're gonna spend most of your time in? It's the top thing you could do apart from your relationship to yourself and reality as a whole. 

16 minutes ago, integral said:

Most people really don't care that much, if they really care then they're already doing pick up. Most of the people that want the 10 are also in the same group of people that want the Ferrari and all these things that they can't have it and they have resentment and jealousy, so they cope hard. 

When people get their self-esteems needs Met they don't really care that much about any of this.

 

No I think most people lack a growth based mindset and are not familiar or competent at self-development. I don't think most people have solid self-esteem, do you?

17 minutes ago, integral said:

When you say value what do you mean? Value to society? Who are they valuable to? Besides the Elon Musk that are Reinventing the transportation system, the average person has some bullshit business convincing people to buy things they shouldn't ( like Vape), built some bullshit Network, jacking off some more bullshit people. A circle jerk of rich people, they go on vacation as often as possible. They read only books on how not to lose all their money. And so on. Bankrupt values.

Yes value to others. Society as a whole, their social circle and their romantic partners in a dating context. Idk I think that's a commie  take, most business is useful otherwise they would go out of business. You can sell to people's vices but most businesses are around societal infrastructure and things that people want to buy. Some are a net negative but I don't think that's the majority. For example musicians or actors are in the entertainment industry. You can say there are flaws to it and some of it is mindless coping but when life sucks and someone listens to a song they relate to and they feel better, many people are in the business to get them to have that song be distributed and building the hardware that it's played on.

18 minutes ago, integral said:

I noticed your work and I was wondering why you're not posting daily self development content while building a brand around a life coaching business? I figured that would be the main focus where you're Building yourself brand?

I'm working on it, daily content is hard but I want to build a content machine for sure. My main goal is getting consistent cashflow with my events right now. I've also had my own limiting beliefs in posting content but I'm getting over that slowly.