Mellowmarsh

How did the ( Illusion ) the sense of separation start?

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Just now, Sugarcoat said:

I was feeling funny, truly no hostility here, because you were snarky so it inspired it in me

Okay, I’ll take snarky. No problem. Have a lovely day Sugarcoat. 🙂


 

Grief is Love with Nowhere to Go 

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1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Okay, I’ll take snarky. No problem. Have a lovely day Sugarcoat. 🙂

You too : D

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Fiction is my confession. 📖 


 

Grief is Love with Nowhere to Go 

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9 hours ago, James123 said:

Just close your eyes, and literally think these thoughts what you say above, try to see them, really deeply look at them, but not as trying or looking just be aware of them. 

Can you really be sure that what they are? Any thoughts, including word of "any thoughts".

Good point, J
While nobody is experiencing or having a thought, the content of the thought is what carries the “I”.
Believing that this thought-content has an actual existence is the illusion.
Similarly, the illusion of a separate self arises when you take ownership of a particular experience through the thought “my” or “mine.”


 

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21 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

That is not how I see it. From my perspective, God has nothing to do with the dream. God is real and eternally unchanging.

I view it this way: the dream came into existence, so to speak, through God's creation (you and I), which wanted to cut itself off from God in order to become the Source itself, and thus be separate from and independent of God. You could also say that the dream was created to escape the infinite, structureless unity of God.

I don't think that there is a god and a dream, you could say that there is absolute unlimited being and that's the source of form because the form emanates from the unlimited always, it's the unlimited manifested. The unlimited doesn't want it, it's inevitable. It's not a creation, it's the necessary emanation of the unlimited. If the unlimited "wants" it would be limited. 

21 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

You cannot compare it to this world; yet, in comparison to this world, this world is unreal, an illusion, a fleeting dream. 

As I see this world is the reality, could be another form of reality, but there are in the same level of reality. Being human we get lost in our dense structure and we can open it, but the reality is the same, only the level of openess changes. 

21 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

don't mind it when someone argues against me. It allows me to refine my perspective and helps me internalize it more deeply. And if there happens to be a gap or a flaw in my view, I want to know about it.

Same, that's why I talk here, not to convince people but to refine my perspective and mental structure. I do because a certain structure allows the real openess. It's not important knowing, what is important is that our mental structure is not a hindrance, and this is not easy

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