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Did Trump and Israel just surrender to Iran?

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Trump has announced they are finalizing a deal with Iran.

On truth social he refers to it as “the Islamic republic of Iran”.

 Leaks so far:

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Iran gets :

- ending the war on all fronts including Lebanon

- Freeing of billions of frozen funds

- Withdrawal of American forces in the vicinity 

- lifting of US blockade 

The US gets:

- opening strait of Hormuz

Iran state media has denied this saying Iran will maintain control 

After this parties will have 30 days to agree on the nuclear issue, this can be extended.

Currently neocons are panicking on Twitter, AIPAC is retweeting people bashing the deal.

So the US and Israel aims of regime change, resolving nuclear issue, dealing with missile and proxy threat, so far are unaddressed. However Iran is getting financial relief.

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Didn't they already kill the leader?

 

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3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Didn't they already kill the leader?

 

He just got replaced by someone more extreme 

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34 minutes ago, Raze said:

He just got replaced by someone more extreme 

His son, who may or may not be in a coma. 

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That seems to be the case. The Iranian victory is complete, since the only possible victory for the US/Israelis would have been the fall of the regime. Without an internal revolution, it was impossible to defeat Iran.

I suppose Israel and the US had a plan for that coup to happen, and it simply failed. The positive aspect of this is that it demonstrates that war today is a bad business; any army with modern weaponry willing to fight can cause enormous damage. The negative aspect is the fate of the Iranian dissidents. The regime has been strengthened, and Iran will have to remain dominated by a military oligarchy.

EEUU and Israel will claim that everything was a success, that they destroyed what they wanted to destroy and then wait for the next movement of iran. Less power for EEUU, less legitimacy for Israel, more legitimacy for Iranian regime. 

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Trump is now backing away from the deal. 

But estimates are we are 3-6 months from economic collapse.

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They refuse to make a deal while Iran still pursues an uranium enrichment program. Seems half fair to me. We'll see how things progress. 


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7 hours ago, LordFall said:

They refuse to make a deal while Iran still pursues an uranium enrichment program. Seems half fair to me. We'll see how things progress. 

Iran is not going to agree to that, and now the world economy could collapse if a deal isn’t made within half a year.

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Posted (edited)

What did they expect? Iran, Afghanistan ect... these countries have immense spiritual power, that's why the US/isreal targets them, there is more than meets the eye, there is a deeper reason behind all of this. Before Islam corruption came in they were deeply spiritual Zoroastrianism and Buddhist countries / cultures. If you only knew who sent Islam there and the Taliban... Its always been a war on consciousness, and materialism and media is the disguise. As if 9/11 wasn't obvious enough, but i guess most of the world was still asleep back then. Trace the patterns, connect the dots.

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And the genocide against the Palestinians can continue shamelessly.

Bravo to all the Western hyporcritical Criminal countries

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13 hours ago, Raze said:

Iran is not going to agree to that, and now the world economy could collapse if a deal isn’t made within half a year.

Isn't UAE currently building an alternate pipeline completely bypassing Hormuz? Should be finished by the start of 2027. And there's still some oil going throught another pipeline, it's just a very insufficient amount. But together with the bypass it may prevent collapse. Not really buying it all that much tbh


 

 

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This was just attempt #1.

To be continued...

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Posted (edited)

You guys just don't know about Trump and Q do you?

Even if you do you may think it's just some silly conspiracy theories nothing more.

But this is not what it seems to you Trump is not fighting with the Islamic Republic of Iran in reality he is fighting with the Globalists and the deep state and the so called "Iran" is their Achilles Heel.

With the fall of "Iran" Persia will rise again and the global system will fall with it.

You guys really think Trump couldn't open the strait of hormuz?

He could but he is not opening it on purpose just to pressure Europe and the whole global system, Europe is the heart of Globalism.

He is also using Iran to pressure Netanyahu. Watch he will also fall in the end of all these games.

Don't Underestimate Q drops, read them and connect the dots.

It was a plan all along.

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On 5/26/2026 at 8:37 AM, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Isn't UAE currently building an alternate pipeline completely bypassing Hormuz? Should be finished by the start of 2027. And there's still some oil going throught another pipeline, it's just a very insufficient amount. But together with the bypass it may prevent collapse. Not really buying it all that much tbh

that isn’t going to completely bypass the strait of Hormuz because it doesn’t transport enough. Also if the strait is still closed by 2027 we will be in Great Depression territory. 

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Iran has the power to destroy the world economy.  They could do it tomorrow and it will be permanent.   The only silver lining is that China doesn’t want this to happen.  It would hurt them too.  China supplies Iran with GPS data to guide their missles so they have some leverage over Iran.  I believe that this is why Trump recently went to China.  Now we are in the stage where Trump has to make it look like he won, even though it is obvious that this is a huge defeat for both American and Israel.


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Because the official read the deal to reporters and the print text has not been released, this transcript may be inexact, for example in terms of punctuation.

1. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war, by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.

2. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.

3. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

4. Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5. Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman, and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz, in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states, in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.

6. The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above-mentioned and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations, in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven with the minimum methodology to be down-blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear needs based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

9. Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10. The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, the U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11. The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of the MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

12. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.

13. After signing this MOU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.

14. The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.

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I hate to say it but they kind of won in Venezuela 

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23 minutes ago, Raze said:

I hate to say it but they kind of won in Venezuela 

Not when you consider we traded brasil and Mexico for it, that's about the equivalent to the Iran deal, Venezuela is no use to us. We would be at the same spot if trump had only removed his sanctions on Venezuela, but we would still have brasil and mexico. It's identical to trump blockading hormuz, he blockaded hormuz and Venezuela, now unblocked them minus $400b and brasil and Mexico.

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