Did Trump and Israel just surrender to Iran?

[Raze]

Trump has announced they are finalizing a deal with Iran.

On truth social he refers to it as “the Islamic republic of Iran”.

 Leaks so far:

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Iran gets :

- ending the war on all fronts including Lebanon

- Freeing of billions of frozen funds

- Withdrawal of American forces in the vicinity 

- lifting of US blockade 

The US gets:

- opening strait of Hormuz

Iran state media has denied this saying Iran will maintain control 

After this parties will have 30 days to agree on the nuclear issue, this can be extended.

Currently neocons are panicking on Twitter, AIPAC is retweeting people bashing the deal.

So the US and Israel aims of regime change, resolving nuclear issue, dealing with missile and proxy threat, so far are unaddressed. However Iran is getting financial relief.

[Hojo]

Didn't they already kill the leader?

 

[Raze]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Didn't they already kill the leader?

 

He just got replaced by someone more extreme 

[enchanted]

34 minutes ago, Raze said:

He just got replaced by someone more extreme 

His son, who may or may not be in a coma. 

[Hojo]

@Raze Damn great strat.

[Breakingthewall]

That seems to be the case. The Iranian victory is complete, since the only possible victory for the US/Israelis would have been the fall of the regime. Without an internal revolution, it was impossible to defeat Iran.

I suppose Israel and the US had a plan for that coup to happen, and it simply failed. The positive aspect of this is that it demonstrates that war today is a bad business; any army with modern weaponry willing to fight can cause enormous damage. The negative aspect is the fate of the Iranian dissidents. The regime has been strengthened, and Iran will have to remain dominated by a military oligarchy.

EEUU and Israel will claim that everything was a success, that they destroyed what they wanted to destroy and then wait for the next movement of iran. Less power for EEUU, less legitimacy for Israel, more legitimacy for Iranian regime. 

[Raze]

Trump is now backing away from the deal. 

But estimates are we are 3-6 months from economic collapse.

[LordFall]

They refuse to make a deal while Iran still pursues an uranium enrichment program. Seems half fair to me. We'll see how things progress. 

[Raze]

7 hours ago, LordFall said:

They refuse to make a deal while Iran still pursues an uranium enrichment program. Seems half fair to me. We'll see how things progress. 

Iran is not going to agree to that, and now the world economy could collapse if a deal isn’t made within half a year.

[Ramasta9]

What did they expect? Iran, Afghanistan ect... these countries have immense spiritual power, that's why the US/isreal targets them, there is more than meets the eye, there is a deeper reason behind all of this. Before Islam corruption came in they were deeply spiritual Zoroastrianism and Buddhist countries / cultures. If you only knew who sent Islam there and the Taliban... Its always been a war on consciousness, and materialism and media is the disguise. As if 9/11 wasn't obvious enough, but i guess most of the world was still asleep back then. Trace the patterns, connect the dots.

Edited 8 hours ago by Ramasta9