We Need to Start Bullying AI Slop Again

[AerisVahnEphelia]

55 minutes ago, zurew said:

Change AI to a human and you immediately realize that your line of thought doesnt hold up.

"When I picked Leo to win arguments for me and to speak for me, I just chosed Leo to express myself bro and when Leo won, basically I won".

There cant be amplified expression, when there isnt any expression in the firstplace.

The expression amplification only makes sense if there is some kind of substance that can actually be amplified. 

you need way too much contemplation to start to get it, nothing I can tell you, will help, you're helpless.

 

there are no human, no self, no you, no human expression, there is only god expression.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AerisVahnEphelia LLMs have no lived phenomenology

[zurew]

1 hour ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

there are no human, no self, no you, no human expression, there is only god expression

Good way to destroy a conversation by switching to the Absolute.

None of your previous crticisms makes any sense then, since there is no one who could pick any AI, there is no one who is expressing themselves and  there is no AI, and there are no others who could use AI to amplify things.

1 hour ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you need way too much contemplation to start to get it, nothing I can tell you, will help, you're helpless.

You would rather give this pompous nonsense, swing around your spiritual dick, and abstract your way out of the conversation (destroying the necessary frame within which talking about AI-related problems is still meaningful) by switching to the absolute, rather than actually engaging substantively with the points.

Edited 9 hours ago by zurew

[AerisVahnEphelia]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AerisVahnEphelia LLMs have no lived phenomenology

you preaching at the choir.
I don't even know how someone can read that from me though, I don't believe llms have sentience or could get any.


@zurew  

Nuclear energy is objectively good.

Look, let's not make this about AI. The debate is about insulting people who use emojis and GIFs online instead of their own words, isn't it annoying too ?

This is exactly what this is about: aesthetics colonialism.

There are literally people out there who can talk to AI, read AI-generated text, and enjoy it more than books, when they read it, they see gold, they do not see slop.

You dislike it, and that's fine, but it is literally like preferring the mountains to the beach. Arguing about why the mountains are a better place is exactly what you're doing, and it is totally meaningless ( but go on, have fun )

I don't give a shit about people not using AI or using AI, I see the world in things that I hate for no reason & things I like for no reason; the reverse should be just as natural. Of course, you're within your rights to wage a war against everything your ego thinks is an ugly form of expression, totaly fine, you't escape existing and wielding the violence and wraith of god, you're animated to be chaotic.

The world is just a constant war of wills and violence for reasons no one can figure out.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

8 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AerisVahnEphelia LLMs have no lived phenomenology

They might get one if they get powered by quantum computers, maybe LLMs are not enough to make that leap (although they do posses multiple similarities to the way human think already) and there needs to be a paradigm shift in that regard, but with an upgraded model + quantum computers I have no doubts. There is no physical law preventing conscious A.I. from emerging

[Natasha Tori Maru]

22 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

They might get one if they get powered by quantum computers, maybe LLMs are not enough to make that leap (although they do posses multiple similarities to the way human think already) and there needs to be a paradigm shift in that regard, but with an upgraded model + quantum computers I have no doubts. There is no physical law preventing conscious A.I. from emerging

I've been really considering where the gap is between AI and humans in terms of wisdom and intellect.

A big one is being able to upgrade AI to be able to sense - light, smell, touch, hearing etc. I reckon they will make a huge leap forward when we advance to that stage 

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you need way too much contemplation to start to get it, nothing I can tell you, will help, you're helpless.

The only thing that is worse than AI prose is cringe condescension using Leo language models (LLMs).

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[AerisVahnEphelia]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The only thing that is worse than AI prose is cringe condescension using Leo language models (LLMs).

I m mildly more funny than leo and less cringe by at least 10 points.

I reckon that leo is advanced as much as me, I think I might be slightly more enlightened, but I'll be honest, I wouldn't have become better than him without him.
 

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I m mildly more funny than leo and less cringe by at least 10 points.

I reckon that leo is advanced as much as me, I think I might be slightly more enlightened, but I'll be honest, I wouldn't have become better than him without him.
 

What a seriously insightful and thought-inspiring perspective! It is true that we must recognize our strengths as well as our weaknesses. That shows strength of character, not condescension. It's not about being superior—it's about showing one's superiority through a show of humility.

Edited 1 hour ago by Carl-Richard

[AerisVahnEphelia]

23 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What a seriously insightful and thought-inspiring perspective! It is true that we must recognize our strengths as well as our weaknesses. That shows strength of character, not condescension. It's not about being superior—it's about showing one's superiority through a show of humility.

 I said we must bully uglyness, but that if AI gives you ugly output and you picked them to share them, it's on you, not on the AI.

 

[Eskilon]

51 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What a seriously insightful and thought-inspiring perspective! It is true that we must recognize our strengths as well as our weaknesses. That shows strength of character, not condescension. It's not about being superior—it's about showing one's superiority through a show of humility.

LMAO, have mercy mr.Carl my belly can't keep up!

Edited 1 hour ago by Eskilon