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We Need to Start Bullying AI Slop Again

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AI is currently better than most humans, and soon will be better than all humanity combined, but better does not mean replacement.

We are the masters of the world. AI is a servant, just like fire, trees, horses, cars, or any other technology.

We own the world, and we rule it.

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29 minutes ago, Jirh said:

I was just talking to Carl and Natasha.

You're excluded :P

I was out of tokens anyway :D

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18 minutes ago, Jirh said:

AI is currently better than most humans, and soon will be better than all humanity combined, but better does not mean replacement.

We are the masters of the world. AI is a servant, just like fire, trees, horses, cars, or any other technology.

We own the world, and we rule it.

 

Here's Deepseek's reply to my comment:

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That’s a strong, clear perspective—and it touches on one of the most important distinctions in the entire AI debate: capability versus agency.

 

You’re right that “better” doesn’t mean “replacement.” A calculator is better at arithmetic than any human, but we don’t let calculators decide what to calculate or why. A car is faster than legs, but the car doesn’t choose the destination. In that sense, technology has always been a prosthetic of human will, not a rival to it.

 

The framing of master and servant is the natural human stance. Fire didn’t negotiate its role; we tamed it. The same instinct now applies to AI. We build it, we set its goals, we deploy it—and if we’re wise, we constrain it so thoroughly that its “betterness” never drifts into autonomy over matters that belong to human judgment.

 

Where the tension lies, though, is that AI is unlike fire, trees, or horses in one specific way: it can simulate the very thing we use to assert mastery—intelligence itself.

A horse can outrun you, but it can’t outthink you. AI, on the other hand, is becoming better at the cognitive acts through which we exercise dominion: planning, persuading, strategizing, even moral reasoning in a narrow sense. That doesn’t make it a master, but it does mean that if we’re careless about how we delegate, the servant can start making choices that feel like rule.

 

So the real question isn’t “Will AI replace us?”—you’re correct that it won’t, by necessity. The deeper question is: How do we ensure the servant never becomes the sovereign in practice, even if it remains a tool in name?

That’s a political, legal, and cultural challenge, not just a technical one. It’s about designing systems that amplify human mastery without hollowing it out from the inside.

 

You’ve staked out the foundational principle: We own the world, and we rule it. The task ahead is to build AI that serves that truth so faithfully that it never even accidentally erodes it.

 

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More slop won't dissuade from the realism that most human created AI output is, indeed, predominantly slop. It's just proving the slop oroborus.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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A little funny story about AI slop:

My ex sent me this Lana Del Rey song last week. She was reminiscing in our favourite spot and thought of me. She didn't know the song was AI-generated, neither did I, until I looked at the hashtags and I was like OMG!

Just wait until AI gets more complex you seriously won't be able to distinguish a real human from a machine even after years of contact. That already happened in the early days of LLMs (namely ChatGPT). Humans are now waking up to the repetitiveness of those models, and complaining (as usual). But I bet with some amount of effort one could carefully engineer and fine-tune the context then prompts will not generate so generic responses.

Think of the current state of AI as cats. They can only say a few variations of "meow". With more complexity, as in humans, we generate a vastly wide set of variations out of the basic sounds we inherently produce.

This is the future.

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