Sam Harris : Hasan Piker Is the Left's Nick Fuentes

[museumoftrees]

Thoughts ?
 

 

[Wilhelm44]

Sam is in complete denial of what happened in Gaza, so it's to be expected that he would want to demonize someone like Hasan.

[Raze]

Sam is an example of how you can be consistently biased and stupid, but if you do it while bashing trump and speaking calmly and softly and talking about mindfulness mainstream democrat leaners will still take you seriously.

He was also whining about Mamdani being an Islamist, in reality Mamdani is a woke leftist. He’s exactly what Sam had called for in the past, Muslims reforming to be more liberal. But the truth is that’s not what he wants, he worships the state of Israel and wants anyone against it to be a target of the US government.

Hes convinced the public is just biased against people like him and innately drawn to islamists which is why they’re turning on Israel. The actual reason is Sams delusions and positions are so idiotic and damaging to the world and country it forces people away from him. Most Americans would obviously be biased in favor of Sam and his ilk, secular Jews, than Islamic radicals and Iranian mullahs.

 It actually shows more about how appealing he is to the mainstream and left that a large segment of his base turning on him didn’t happen sooner. They stuck by him even as he endorsed starvation sieges and praised trumps foreign policy because of his deference to Israel. 

Sam to this day argues the IDF in Gaza fought more morally than the US in the war on terror. Despite being part of the intellectual dark web and bemoaning the left for running from conversations, and for then bemoaning the right for ignoring experts. He’s refused to talk to a single expert on the other side of this view. The closest he came was arguing with Rahm Emanuel, one of the most pro Israel democrats, after he mildly critiqued israel.

Sam passionately supported the US attacking Iran and said the US would easily create a secular democracy in Iran. He now is surprised the public doesn’t understand how right and moral he was to endorse a war of aggression that massacred an entire elementary school of children and is wrecking the global economy for no coherent benefit other than the sadistic glee he gets from seeing civilians in Israel’s enemy countries being massacred.

Some people say he changed, no he didn’t, at the height of the controversy around the US using torture in the war on terror he wrote an article endorsing it. 

Sam is the banality of evil and dunning-Krueger personified.

Edited 14 hours ago by Raze

[Leo Gura]

Hasan is problematic, but no one on the left is as bad as on the right.

[Raze]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hasan is problematic, but no one on the left is as bad as on the right.

It’s not even a good analysis. They don’t function the same way.

Fuentes is far more strategic and calculating. He makes his shocking statements combined with exaggerations and humor as a purposeful strategy. But he holds grudges and like a porcupine stabs anyone that gets near him.

Hasan says stupid things because he gets riled up and it blows up in his face. 
However on the other hand is better at forming connections and building inroads with institutions.

Edited 14 hours ago by Raze

[Opulence]

Hasan Piker is a dog shocker.

[Hafiz]

Sam Harris is lost

[Leo Gura]

Sam's denial of the obvious ethnic cleansing of Gaza by focusing on Hasan is the real issue.

Right wing Israelis are certainly genocidal. And they run Israeli policy.

Sam refuses to take responsiblity for how the West causes terrorism.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[hoodrow trillson]

36 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Sam's denial of the obvious ethnic cleansing of Gaza by focusing on Hasan is the real issue.

Right wing Israelis are certainly genocidal. And they run Israeli policy.

Sam refuses to take responsiblity for how the West causes terrorism.

Wait.

So essentially, Israel is right wing?

[Raze]

Sam thinks the war with Iran is a war for “western civilization”

[Cred]

The only bad thing about Hassan is that makes content for people who are already radicalized. He had the chance to radicalize me early and failed. Still a bit mad about it

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Raze said:

Sam thinks the war with Iran is a war for “western civilization”

Classic example of self-bias.

[Opulence]

40 minutes ago, Cred said:

The only bad thing about Hassan is that makes content for people who are already radicalized. He had the chance to radicalize me early and failed. Still a bit mad about it

It can turn people violent. His content isn't without risk. One can compare him to right hooligans and think it's not a big deal but violence from the left is still violence. His content is more aligned with violent radical left and he probably should be deplatformed. Freedom of speech comes with consequences.

[Leo Gura]

Hasan is problematic in that he radicalizes leftists to be even more dogmatic in their far left views. This makes leftists feel like they are superior to everyone else in an unhealthy way. Youngsters who go down the Hasan rabbit hole will fall into leftists dogma, arrogance, and closedmindedness. Hasan's community is a far left Marxist echo-chamber.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Joel3102]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hasan is problematic in that he radicalizes leftists to be even more dogmatic in their far left views. This makes leftists feel like they are superior to everyone else in an unhealthy way. Youngsters who go down the Hasan rabbit hole will fall into leftists dogma, arrogance, and closedmindedness. Hasan's community is a far left Marxist echo-chamber.

I don’t even think Hasan is progressive/green. He wears the aesthetic at times but seems like he just hates the west and supports anti west authoritarian regimes

Edited 1 hour ago by Joel3102

[Opulence]

24 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

I don’t even think Hasan is progressive/green. He wears the aesthetic at times but seems like he just hates the west and supports anti west authoritarian regimes

On point.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

He collar shocked his dog on stream, that tells you a lot about him. He's a typical type of wokie who probably adopted his views later in life or when he started streaming and had probably been a POS all his life prior to that. Now he's trying to wear his moral wokie mask but he's still the same POS in his core

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Joel3102 said:

I don’t even think Hasan is progressive/green. He wears the aesthetic at times but seems like he just hates the west and supports anti west authoritarian regimes

Hasan is a prime example of Green. You don't get more politically Green than Hasan.

Don't forget Green can be hypocritical. That doesn't mean it's not Green.

Hating the West is exactly what Green loves to do. Because it is so anti bullying of minorities.

Hasan is a perfect example of what it's like to get stuck in Green, and the limitations of that. Hasan suffers exactly from the excesses of Green. And that's what rubs Sam Harris the wrong way.

Edited 2 minutes ago by Leo Gura