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Drama Alert! Another YTber is calling us a cult! 😈☦️

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And I'll address the "why don't you leave?" question which is regularly asked and is a serious question. There are obviously pros and cons to being here.

But if there is one reason to leave, it's that engaging in an atmosphere where delusions are entertained like this erodes your relationship to truth and that constantly calling it out invokes a certain mental state that is not healthy in the long run (one of incessant cuttingness and antagonism) and if you don't call it out, you also invoke a mental state that is not healthy (one of denial, submission, dissociation). 

Whichever way you slice it, you erode your relationship to truth and how you relate to other people in a healthy way.

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Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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I don't know him well enough to say he's a narcissist. But he is quite objectively narcissistic, I think. I guess he'd say "that's important for being successful" or something.

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"The mystical is not how the world is, but that it is."
-Ludwig Wittgenstein

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As for "you guys just don't understand ambition", this response is entirely wrong and misleading. It's not ambitious to say "I am the most conscious being in the universe" or "I am the #1 authority on epistemology in the entire world". Those are claims of what you are, not what you are trying to become. If your ambition is finding the most accurate picture of reality in the entire world, that is entirely different than claiming you already have it.

And if you think you already have a pretty accurate picture of reality and you're currently not convinced that anyone is providing a better alternative, you say "this is the most accurate picture of reality I have found and I'm currently not convinced of any better alternative". You don't say "I'm the #1 authority on what constitutes an accurate picture of reality". That's a "subtle" nuance of epistemology right there.

And notice how sneaky he is in that post "I genuinely believe that I can understand Reality better than any human who has ever lived". As if he hasn't already said that he does understand it better than any human that has ever lived. It's sneaky snaky behavior.

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5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

As for "you guys just don't understand ambition", this response is entirely wrong and misleading. It's not ambitious to say "I am the most conscious being in the universe" or "I am the #1 authority on epistemology in the entire world". Those are claims of what you are, not what you're trying to become. If your ambition is finding the most accurate picture of reality in the entire world, that is entirely different than claiming you already have it.

And if you think you already have a pretty accurate picture of reality and you're currently not convinced that anyone is providing a better alternative, you say "this is the most accurate picture of reality I have found and I'm currently not convinced of any better alternative". You don't say "I'm the #1 authority on what constitutes an accurate picture of reality". That's a "subtle" nuance of epistemology right there.

Yes.  This is not what one wants to do ideally.

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1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

"this is the most accurate picture of reality I have found and I'm currently not convinced of any better alternative".

That is not awakening that is theory.  


 

Wisdom.  Truth.  Love.

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30 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That is not awakening that is theory.  

He speaks about both awakening and theory. And to claim to be #1 in either, let alone both, is ludicrous. It is ridiculous beyond parody 100x over in a strangeloop that I have to say this. It's actually beneath anyone that they should even entertain this as a thought for one second.

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