Peter Ralston On LOVE - Newsletter Response

[CARDOZZO]

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Hello Peter, all good? I have a question(s) regarding Love in a metaphysical and existential way.

What is your view on Love and Truth being exactly the same thing? Why don't you talk about Love as if it were the generating principle of everything? Is it true that Infinity = Love = Truth = Consciousness? Thanks for your work!

Henrique

 

 

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Henrique,

It is quite simple. Why don't I talk about love as the generating principle of everything? Because it's not. Is it true that all those things are the same? No. You are relating to a belief system that you have heard, and you like the idea that all these distinctions are the same. Have you directly experienced any of this? No, of course not. Just wanting something to be true isn't a pursuit of what is actually true.

If these were all the same why do we have four different words for them? If for some reason their very natures turn out to be the same then they would be the same. Do you experience infinity? No. Do you experience Truth? Depends on what we're talking about in that case, doesn't it? Do you experience what Consciousness really is? No. Do you experience love? Perhaps, but that is a feeling-experience isn't it? Why would you say that is the same thing as infinite consciousness that is true?

I suspect you can see that it is only a belief you happen to like. If that is the case, why would I talk about such things? My commitment is to the truth, and to getting to this through direct experience or direct consciousness, not to feeling good or believing in anything.

Does that answer your question?

Peter

 

Note: On the end of the response, there is a Leo's blog post image:

Edited 5 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[Someone here]

Love includes denying Love.  
no but seriously.. it doesn’t matter what Ralston says about love or what Leo says about god . This is appealing to authorities. You should find out what is true for yourself . I think this is a central core pillar of Leo’s teachings as well . This word “sovereignty of mind “ is being overused in the forum where people say sovereignty over their own mind means you are epistemically responsible for what you hold as true or false . 
Leo isn’t saying anything new .  The Bible said God is Love 2000 years ago . What matters is what you are conscious of .

[Leo Gura]

Lol.

Infinity is literally Love. He is wrong. It has nothing to do with belief.

Of course God is Love. What the fuck else would it be?

Anything Ralston disagrees with is a belief to him. Which is quite self-deceived.

You are never going to get Ralston to understand Love. So stop trying. This issue is settled.

You guys gotta stop emailing him about this.

That newsletter has misled so many people at this point.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

@Leo Gura how do people reach different conclussions of the truth? if Love is absolute truth, why is this not ralstons conclusion?

althrough it does seem 90% of spiritual teachers agree that God is Love. but what about the remaining 10%? Some of them seemingly extremely advanced, for example Ralston and Sadhguru

Edited 1 hour ago by emil1234

[Leo Gura]

@emil1234 That is a mystery for the ages.

The original Enlightenment Intensive format created by Charles Berner included the question What is love?

Ralston got rid of it, thereby corrupting it. He never got it. And none of Ralston's students know that. They just blindly trust him like mindless monkeys.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

i mean isnt the answer simply that these (however enlightened) masters, has simply eluded the specific insight of Love? Given that there are many aspects to Truth

Edited 1 hour ago by emil1234

[James123]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol.

Infinity is literally Love. He is wrong. It has nothing to do with belief.

Of course God is Love. What the fuck else would it be?

Anything Ralston disagrees with is a belief to him. Which is quite self-deceived.

You are never going to get Ralston to understand Love. So stop trying. This issue is settled.

You guys gotta stop emailing him about this.

That newsletter has misled so many people at this point.

Love is the reason of life, but it is not You. İt happens trough You, but not You.

Where was it before physical birth?

İf you say it is infinite life's or life cycle, fuck that.

You never born. Body does.

[emil1234]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

Where was it before physical birth?

 

before physical birth is literally an idea in your mind

[James123]

2 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

before physical birth is literally an idea in your mind

Bullshit. Put your hand on fire then you will see birth is in your mind or not. 

%99 of the forum just repeating what they heard like a parrot.

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Bullshit. Put your hand on fire then you will see birth is in your mind or not. 

%99 of the forum just repeating what they heard like a parrot.

I kind of agree with this.  

[Leo Gura]

32 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where was it before physical birth?

Infinity.

Once again, there is nothing which is not you.

Edited 37 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

has simply eluded the specific insight of Love?

Yeah, but the puzzle is how that is possible.

How can one be conscious of Infinity but not conscious of Love?

Edited 36 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[James123]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Infinity.

Once again, there is nothing which is not you.

İf everything is you, body, sun, moon, air is identical. According to your theory.

A quick test, out your hand on fire. And see, that you are the fire 😂 

Don't waste your time with this bullshit. 

Be what You really are.

[emil1234]

36 minutes ago, James123 said:

Bullshit. Put your hand on fire then you will see birth is in your mind or not. 

%99 of the forum just repeating what they heard like a parrot.

what do you mean? fire and the experience of pain is not just an idea or a concept, its an actual experience. I dont know where you're going with this

[James123]

18 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

what do you mean? fire and the experience of pain is not just an idea or a concept, its an actual experience. I dont know where you're going with this

So how the fuck birth is the mind?

[emil1234]

@James123 my point is that only what you experience right now can be trusted to be 100% true. Therefore whether or not your birth actually happened, whatever is pre birth can ever only be an idea in your mind 

[Terell Kirby]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How can one be conscious of Infinity but not conscious of Love?

bc they have made a distinction between the two