Russell Brand In Hot Water

[Ulax]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The problem with much of Green is that it can be so performative. Not embodied. It's like a cloak one wears to look cool in front of friends. That's the self-deception of it. It makes you feel like you're more evolved than you are, and that feels so good.

I agree. Especially if someone doesn't have sexual abundance.

[Joseph Maynor]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The problem with much of Green is that it can be so performative. Not embodied. It's like a cloak one wears to look cool in front of friends. That's the self-deception of it. It makes you feel like you're more evolved than you are, and that feels so good.

This is imputing a lot of motive on a class of people instead of actual individuals.  

[Something Funny]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The problem with much of Green is that it can be so performative. Not embodied. It's like a cloak one wears to look cool in front of friends. That's the self-deception of it. It makes you feel like you're more evolved than you are, and that feels so good.

Blue as well?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I mean, yeah he is suffering. I feel bad for anyones suffering.

But his behaviour is to be rebuked.

I'll always laugh my arse off at the hubris and arrogance of someone who is so stupid they honestly think they can fool anyone with such an act! 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I mean, yeah he is suffering. I feel bad for anyones suffering.

But his behaviour is to be rebuked.

I'll always laugh my arse off at the hubris and arrogance of someone who is so stupid they honestly think they can fool anyone with such an act! 

How is he an act any different than anyone else?  I feel like there's a need sometimes to put down another to elevate anyone's own imperfect ego from criticism.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

How is he an act any different than anyone else?  I feel like there's a need sometimes to put down another to elevate anyone's own imperfect ego from criticism.

The act (in this context!!!!!) is operating outside integrity - he doesn't believe any of the new beliefs he is trying on for size. His actions and his inner world do not align. He merely adopts them as a virtue signal, or 'get out of jail' free card. They are farces that will be thrown away if they do not serve a use or purpose. 

Perhaps a jury with sympathise.

Edited 3 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

How is he an act any different than anyone else?  I feel like there's a need sometimes to put down another to elevate anyone's own imperfect ego from criticism.

I agree. Human behaviour tends toward lifting people up just to watch them fall.

 

 Can’t con a con. 

[Leo Gura]

He has fallen into the trap of too much self-justifying.

It is a bad idea to justify yourself and your mistakes so much. It's a devious trap.

Admit you made a mistake and then stop justifying yourself.

[Lyubov]

I literally was watching this yesterday… it’s so ironic that this guy was so anti woke anti establishment, saying the elite are sick and after kids etc. then he supports Trump… Epstein’s best friend and of course is sleeping with a 16 yo when he’s 30…. 

[Joseph Maynor]

12 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The act (in this context!!!!!) is operating outside integrity - he doesn't believe any of the new beliefs he is trying on for size. His actions and his inner world do not align. He merely adopts them as a virtue signal, or 'get out of jail' free card. They are farces that will be thrown away if they do not serve a use or purpose. 

Perhaps a jury with sympathise.

I feel really bad when I see demonizing people because it's been done to me.  And not fairly.  I've had this kind of treatment happen to me.

[Ulax]

40 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This is imputing a lot of motive on a class of people instead of actual individuals.  

I get where you're coming from. But classes of people often have generally shared motives. Or at least sub-classes of a general class do.

Edited 2 hours ago by Ulax

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Ulax said:

I get where you're coming from. But classes of people often have generally shared motives

But you need to get to know someone in person.  This is the problem with all this online stuff.

[Lyubov]

I think the reaction to his behavior is appropriate. 

I don’t believe anyone is innately bad nor do I think my value is higher than any one person.

Every person is innately valuable and worthy of love. 

You can judge the behavior and recognize it is unaligned with spirit and dishonest. 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

Anyone can admit their mistakes. But that’s just meaningless after the action has already happened, it’s not like immediate actions could have actioned any different, if they could then no one alive would ever make a mistake.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He has fallen into the trap of too much self-justifying.

It is a bad idea to justify yourself and your mistakes so much. It's a devious trap.

Admit you made a mistake and then stop justifying yourself.

Ok well you first then.

[Mellowmarsh]

Humans are all faking it. If we could all read each other’s minds, we’d all be revealed our real true colours, and that would be embarrassing. 
  
You can only chastise yourself, not others. 

[Basman]

He speedran finding god as soon as the allegations came in 😂 But can he outrun them?

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Humans are all faking it. If we could all read each other’s minds, we’d all be revealed our real true colours, and that would be embarrassing. 
  
You can only chastise yourself, not others. 

I can understand why you might feel this way.  

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

I can understand why you might feel this way.  

I don’t might. I am absolutely 💯 certain I feel this way. 

[Leo Gura]

The issue is not that he did something bad. That is fine. The issue is how easily he bullshits about it, how he spins it, and how he cloaks himself in spirituality.

Spirituality is not to be used for such purposes. Leave your Bible at home when you go to your rape trial.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura