Have empathy for Pedophiles

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, HopefulMan said:

@Natasha Tori Maru sadly I can attest to this (so can others here). It does incredible damage (maybe irreparable in many cases as I feel it is in mine)

The way you phrased the post is weird because you feel empathy for the pedophile but not for the one judging the pedophile. Weird in the least

I get your point though because they didn't choose their brain nor their life circumstances that led them there

Just because I am putting forth an argument for a topic, does not mean I do not understand the other side of it. I did not state I have no empathy for the one judging the pedophile. I understand this stance also - and I feel and understand greater empathy for those who suffer the acts of pedophiles, and the widespread damage they do to society. I lean on the side of rebuking and feeling disgusted by pedophilia. As I stated at the start of the thread.

Careful what assumptions and inferences you make. This is a purely intellectual debate for me, despite the tragedy of the general existence of pedophiles. And the moral consequences. 

I merely illustrate perspective and want to investigate all sides.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just because I intellectually and cognitively understand and empathise with a pedophile, does not mean I risk my own morals of the matter. It is a detached understanding . Different to affective and feeling empathy - where we feel for another's suffering without the understating.

Real power is mastering the two axis' of empathy, and not getting swept up into moral judgement, but understanding it.

Edited 4 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Lila9]

1 hour ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Its a super easy convo when you don't look at the bigger picture. This is a two way street - if you have predators then you have victims.

Some of them should try talking to (empathize) those who have been so violated they couldn't give a shit if this planet blew right the hell up into smithereens.  Their opinion of reality is just as valid as any other opinion.  Go ask any of the tens of thousands of adults that have been churned out of one of the many orphan molester towns our little planet has to offer if they give a crap about a pedos desires....or saving humanity.

Definitely. I feel nauseous because of it. Fuck them. My heart is open to abused children and victims of sick predators, but not to the predators' sick desires and weird fetishes. I probably will not be a Buddha in this incarnation, and I am okay with that.

[ZenAlex]

Pedophila is involuntary.

Molesting children is voluntary, and demands no sympathy. It often isn't even that impulsive, it's calculated and methodical grooming. The most unsympathetic crime imaginable. If it's a pre-pubescent child being molested, then the pedo deserves at least 25+ Years at least in a rehab focused prison, with restricted living conditions on release. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

This post below on Instagram is about the ridiculousness of debates about Genocide. I think the text apply to this topic of Pedophiles as well. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXrta8_ltMt/?igsh=MTE2MzV2ZDZ6d3Q5Zw==

Just  in case is hard for ya to do the reframing I did it for you:

Here is the reframed text for each slide:

WHY WE DON'T DEBATE PEDOPHILES
Slide 2
There is a violence in the way child abuse gets dressed up as conversation. A violence in the calm tone, the studio lights, the respectful exchange granted to those who harm the most vulnerable.
Slide 3
As if a child's trauma can be reduced to turns of speech. As if the destruction of innocence can be weighed against rhetoric. As if those fighting to protect children must sit across from those who justify their violation and call it dialogue.
Slide 4
This is how normalization breathes. Through familiarity. Through repetition. Through the quiet suggestion that every position deserves a seat, every ideology a hearing, every crime a counterpoint.
Slide 5
And suddenly, what should stand isolated in disgrace is invited back into the room — cleaned, framed, humanized. A pedophile does not need to win the debate. He only needs to belong in it.
Slide 6
Because the moment child abuse is treated as a perspective, it is no longer confronted as a crime. It becomes something you respond to, not something you dismantle. Something you engage with, not something you end.
Slide 7
While one side refines arguments, the other carries wounds that never heal.
Slide 8
Children were not broken, silenced and scarred for their reality to be reduced to a talking point. They did not endure abuse so that their suffering could be moderated, timed and scored for clarity. There is nothing neutral about granting a predator the dignity of debate.
Slide 9
Truth does not need to share a stage with predation to prove itself. Justice does not require balance with abuse to be seen as legitimate.
Slide 10
There are places where confrontation belongs — where evidence is laid bare, where crimes are named, where power is held to account. A courtroom. A tribunal. A reckoning. But a stage built for "both sides"? That is not confrontation. That is normalization.

Edited 51 minutes ago by Rafael Thundercat