I need to build a Tiny Home thats MCS and EMF safe

[Basman]

6 hours ago, integral said:

The reason we don't build with mud is because of systemic corruption caused by the logging industry.

Mud is a superior material.

I like my houses to not melt under rain.

[Leo Gura]

A modern house has so many ammenities and comforts that no cheap self-built mud house would have.

Wall sockets, ceiling lights, large windows and sliding glass doors, garage, kitchen, bathtubs, toilets, sinks, plumbing, internet, granite countertops, expensive cabinets, fan vents, central heating, etc.

If you somehow added all that to a mud house it would get very expensive and you couldn't build it yourself, you'd need experienced professionals to build it.

Without those ammenities a modern house would have no resale value. Because everyone expects those things today.

HOAs wouldn't even allow it because your mud house would drag down the value of the entire block.

Edited 14 hours ago by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

Build that thang inside an U-Haul:

 

 

Btw this guy is a freak if nature, he describes his imagination and inner visualisation to be similar to Tesla's, that's how he learned to do all of that himself 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by mmKay

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura

And to add on - if you want to expand or upgrade any sort of service (hydraulics, electrical, sprinklers, HVAC) you are sort of fucked. Renovations and expandability are almost nill. Want to add a second story? You're fucked. It's like build in redundancy with tech instead of being able to repair. Retrofitting? ROFL

Ain't NO ONE wants to bulldoze their house and start over to make a change.

Mud houses being romanticized a bit

[Leo Gura]

@Natasha Tori Maru Can I really add a 3rd floor to my existing house? Doubt it.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Natasha Tori Maru Can I really add a 3rd floor to my existing house? Doubt it.

Depends on many factors - it can be done.

[integral]

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A modern house has so many ammenities and comforts that no cheap self-built mud house would have.

Wall sockets, ceiling lights, large windows and sliding glass doors, garage, kitchen, bathtubs, toilets, sinks, plumbing, internet, granite countertops, expensive cabinets, fan vents, central heating, etc

People building in caves, just placed their electrical directly on the wall and not hidden in the wall. So you could still have all of your accessories.

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you somehow added all that to a mud house it would get very expensive and you couldn't build it yourself, you'd need experienced professionals to build it.

Without those ammenities a modern house would have no resale value. Because everyone expects those things today.

If this option was more popular we would've solved these engineering issues.

There's no development going on, all these modern technologies (electrical plumbing Internet, air-conditioning) just came out about less than 80 years ago. I'm sure there's a solution.

But how it stands today, you're right.

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HOAs wouldn't even allow it because your mud house would drag down the value of the entire block.

That's true if it's not a modern constructed house. There's a way to build it so its high value, but then it will be a expensive house.

Which is fine as long as it solves the health problem. The whole point is that we use materials that create a healthy living space.

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Leo Gura

And to add on - if you want to expand or upgrade any sort of service (hydraulics, electrical, sprinklers, HVAC) you are sort of fucked. Renovations and expandability are almost nill. Want to add a second story? You're fucked. It's like build in redundancy with tech instead of being able to repair. Retrofitting? ROFL

Ain't NO ONE wants to bulldoze their house and start over to make a change.

Mud houses being romanticized a bit

Are you sure I assumed you just stacked more mud? lmfao make a bigger hill.

But again, it's solving a massive problem of having a healthy house which no one has at the moment. 

Pros and cons

[integral]

6 hours ago, mmKay said:

Build that thang inside an U-Haul:

 

 

Btw this guy is a freak if nature, he describes his imagination and inner visualisation to be similar to Tesla's, that's how he learned to do all of that himself 

 

I've been looking into this from the very beginning! People with really bad air allergies all recommend getting a car that they could sleep in so they have a escape cave. Its the number 1 resource.

The difficulty of building one of those to match my requirements are insane.

Right now, I can't even find a fan that I'm not allergic to, because the oil of the motor leaks into the airstream. So I invented a system to move air by sucking air instead of pushing air into the van, while getting the same result. So the whole thing is convoluted. 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, integral said:

If this option was more popular we would've solved these engineering issues.

I agree that these issues could be solved if there was the will. But the will isn't there to redesign the whole way we make houses. It's an entrenched system. Changing it would involve a lot of work for little benefit to most people.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

I think building a house (at least in the context of everyday life) is probably the #1 thing you don't want to do if you don't have the knowledge, resources or manpower to do it, especially a house that nobody really builds. That's why you have money so you can buy that. Money is conveniencemaxxing. If you're serious, you would probably be better off saving up a shit ton of money and getting the help you need. No need to reinvent the wheel in your own backyard or playing Leonardo DaVinci. But hey, maybe you are that guy.

Edited 4 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

@Carl-Richard He wants a chemical-free house. So for him it makes sense because no one will sell or build you such a house. That's a DIY project.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Carl-Richard He wants a chemical-free house. So for him it makes sense because no one will sell or build you such a house. That's a DIY project.

If you wanted to build a spaceship with kitty ears on it, you would probably still want help from a rocket scientist or an aerospace engineer (and workers, skilled laborers)  Any serious project that could in theory work, could in theory be marketed. It's not like he is the first one out there building a weird house. If you yourself can plan it out in a way that will work, then an engineer, architect, etc. probably can too. Unless it requires actually reinventing the wheel and you're saying these engineers and architects are useless.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

@Carl-Richard He is building a mud box on a shoestring budget, not a rocketship.

[Carl-Richard]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Carl-Richard He is building a mud box on a shoestring budget, not a rocketship.

Shoestring budget is the very thing I'm challenging (and perhaps mud box too, I don't know). You want a spaceship budget (hyperbole yes). And if you want to do it on a shoestring budget, you might end up doing it on a spaceship budget anyway in terms of time spent and potentially resources wasted on failed attempts or getting stuck on seemingly unsolvable problems like here in this thread.

Money is conveniencemaxxing, timemaxxing, it tends to come back around anyway you approach it (unless you're a genius and your discoveries create a discontinuity in money-time/spacetime and become a rapid fount/stratovolcano of value; excuse my sleep-deprived neologitis).

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

When you are very picky about stuff, you gotta do it yourself. Contractors aren't gonna be picky for you.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

People underestimate how steep the learning curve is for this kind of work.

It is why architects and consultants exist. Tell them what you want, and they translate that into a compliant design. At that stage, you’re usually only meeting minimum standards, which is just the baseline.

Build quality is a separate issue entirely.

You either engage a competent GC to manage trades and quality control, or you take that responsibility on yourself. And if you do, be prepared to actively supervise. Because most trades will go for speed at the cost of quality. Cut corners where they shouldn't.

For the hospitals and science facilities we do, which are specialised as fuck and high standards cannot be compromised? use a trusted set of trades you bring from job to job, or closely monitor and inspect work at every stage

There are specialists for niche applications, but they can be hard to find and expensive.

Trying to manage all of this without construction experience is where people run into trouble. It’s not impossible, but it requires constant oversight. Or having someone who knows the industry to help you.

Like surgery... being detail-oriented doesn’t mean you should do it yourself.

[Carl-Richard]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When you are very picky about stuff, you gotta do it yourself. Contractors aren't gonna be picky for you.

I think I'm saying if you find the Avengers of building houses and pay them enough, they will build your house, even if it's a massive cock made out of diamonds.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I think I'm saying if you find the Avengers of building houses and pay them enough, they will build your house, even if it's a massive cock made out of diamonds.

There will be someone out there who will want the challenge of designing / constructing the diamond spigot architectural monstrosity 💎🪠🔨🔨🔨

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

diamond spigot architectural monstrosity 💎🪠

Rock hard 🤣

[Leo Gura]

@Carl-Richard You are talking millionaire fantasies, he is talking about a real project.