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[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Xonas Pitfall I agree with Leo above! You really break people's premise and stances down in a thorough way with openness and good faith.

Much better than me - I tend to just go 'Yeah, no. This is wrong' and do not always have the energy to go into how and why  Which pisses some people off...

[Miguel1]

This is the equilevant of me in my personal life viewing weed as more dangerous than heroin, literally, because I know with 100% certainty I will not touch heroin.

Weed I will very likely touch at some point.

But we all know heroin is way more dangerous than weed, as a chemical.

[Miguel1]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Xonas Pitfall I commend you for striving for objectivity, fairness, and accuracy.

Good! You are being responsible.

I commend you for acknowledging that in him, and behaving like a proper leader.

The old you would have a bit more trouble with that.

[Leo Gura]

@Miguel1 I commend you for commending me commending him.

The circle is complete.

[Miguel1]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Miguel1 I commend you for commending me commending him.

The circle is complete.

Don’t kid yourself, this can go on Infinitely 

[Leo Gura]

Commendments all the way down.

[Xonas Pitfall]

[Shermaningeorgia]

On 29/03/2026 at 3:00 PM, Leo Gura said:

Don't kid yourself. Most guys on there are deluded simps who get scammed for tons of money.

You don't earn $50M in one year "just having fun". These poor lonely men are being scammed. These girls aren't just whoring, they're scamming.

It's worse than porn. Porn is cheap and zero-investment of the guy's emotions. No one is getting scammed with good ol porn.

the extent of OF and it scamming men is overblown. grossly so. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

Wow, sometimes we end up creating our own dramas. Looking for so much drama was created by opening this Thread. Truth is that no matter how much we talk the Porn, OF and all will keep going, survival is survival anyway.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

5 hours ago, Shermaningeorgia said:

the extent of OF and it scamming men is overblown. grossly so. 

Speak for yourself buddy. There's no way in hell I'm ever paying for pictures/videos and not call it a scam. Like, goddamn lmao

[Shermaningeorgia]

Somebody could earn $50m from OF in a year due to good content. She's obviously cute, and maybe she has good scenes and managed to viral. 

It's conservative scaremongers who bemoan the evils of OF. the cases of exploitation of users surely are slim in the overall part. And this just reflects wider human nature and/or behaviour in that people will take advantage of others. There's a sucker born every minute - and this applies when there is a monetary root involved, always. 

[Butters]

If I was bombarded with chodes sliding in my ig 24/7 I'd also find ways to monetize it. 

Edited Tuesday at 02:12 PM by Butters

[VioleGrace]

On 29/03/2026 at 0:32 AM, Jowblob said:

A post from my old self or a previous version of myself

Could it be possbiel for you to post the message in a whole i got interested in the exemples that you are giving cause i dont really get what you mean 

 

[Scholar]

The idea that OnlyFans is an actual problem for society is ludicrious.

Only a tiny % of models on OnlyFans make a lot of money from it, even being able to earning a living is extremely rare.

Attractive women will always have opportunities that offer them an easier lifepath. You could say instagram modelling is even worse because there is even less stigma surrounding it. There is likely far more women who do non-explicit work that is based on their beauty than there are OnlyFans models who make enough money to make a living. Attractive women can just get into a relationship with a rich guy and get taken care of, which is precisely what a lot of women do.

Intelligent women also often use sex-work as a way to fund their education, you even saw that in the porn industry. If you do Only-Fans, you have a lot of free time, so you can do whatever you want with that freetime.

 

The positives far outweigh the negatives here. Less stigma for women who do this work (stigma is ethically untenable, and the naive-utilitarian calculus that you guys make here won't change that), less exploitation and more agency.

You pretend like the alternative to OnlyFans for these women is to do some high consciousness work, but that's a fairy tale. The alternative is to do some other useless, barely socially benefitial job that they are forced to do because otherwise they will be homeless. 

And we don't need more people in academia who do it for financial reasons. Economic incentives like this corrupt academia. We need high consciousness individuals do to high consciousness work because they are high consciousness, not because survival pressures them to get a degree in whatever the fuck the market currently values. There is more than enough people to do that kind of work.

 

Sure, there are inherent negatives to being attractive in terms of development. But the idea that we have to go cavemen logic and stigmatize people for something people clearly want and harms nobody directly is just silly. You can create positive incentives and educate people around these issues without the negative externalities of stigma. Sure, getting easy money for your looks is developmentally harmful, but it's not remotely as harmful as women who are stigmatized for sex-work. It's not even the same universe of harm, and of course some women benefit greatly from doing sex work, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. A woman who would have had to prostitute herself to random dudes and possibly get murdered can now make an OnlyFans and feed her children that way.

 

You guys are inhuman for some of the solutions you suggest for problems that are completely 1st world trivialities. Developmental problems lol, as if those don't occur in most jobs. Capitalism fucks peoples minds, at least OnlyFans models can remove themselves from the pressures of survival and then focus on their development directly. Other people do 9/5 jobs their whole life and are equally as stuck developmentally, become resentful, dysfunctional, have a worse quality of life. Most jobs in the economy destroy your soul. The idea that OnlyFans is especially harmful is just part of the stigma of sex work. 

People uniquely analyse things like OnlyFans for all it's dangers and negative impacts on society because people already have a preconception of how sex-work is inherently corrupt. Yet, nobody bats an eye at how a majority manual labour jobs occur in the most toxic social environments imaginable.

 

If I did OnlyFans and made a ton of money, I could make actualized.org 2.0 easily. In fact, the whole reason why Leo was able to make actualized.org was because he found a way to make tons of easy money. Sure, most people will not do anything conscious with their OnlyFans money, but the same applies to any other job. Most people won't do anything conscious with their PHDs, with their youtube money, with their modelling career. You won't increase consciousness by just forcing people into the regular jobmarket, if that worked, society wouldn't be as dysfunctional as it is.

Edited 15 hours ago by Scholar

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Scholar said:

If I did OnlyFans and made a ton of money, I could make actualized.org 2.0 easily.

Cute fantasy you got there.

OF girl making Actualized.org? Are you outta your mind?

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Scholar]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Cute fantasy you got there.

OF girl making Actualized.org? Are you outta your mind?

Lmao, you cheeky hypocrite. The only reason you made actualize.org is because you had that business exploit that generated tons of money and had luck on youtube. You basically are the equivalent of an OnlyFans whore.

Most people who made money the way you did would be developmentally stunted by it more so than OnlyFans models are by their OnlyFans modelling. Getting popular on youtube is absolutely toxic for your development, and so is making easy money through some google-exploit.

[Scholar]

The point is: If an unconscious person did what you did, they would have as toxic consequences from that as an OnlyFans model.

If a conscious person does what you did, they can achieve their life purpose that way. And the same is true for an OnlyFans model. If you are an attractive, conscious woman, then you can easily enable your life-purpose, including actualized.org 2.0, with an initial career on OnlyFans.

[Lila9]

54 minutes ago, Scholar said:

You pretend like the alternative to OnlyFans for these women is to do some high consciousness work, but that's a fairy tale. The alternative is to do some other useless, barely socially benefitial job that they are forced to do because otherwise they will be homeless. 

Yes. Given the fact that women globally work twice as much as men and earn half of what men earn, using what you have as a young, beautiful woman as an opportunity to improve your survival situation is very rational.

It is also amusing that privileged men who have never been in their position criticize these women’s character rather than criticizing the society that set the conditions for it to begin with. And then those women are seen as the predators who are scamming poor men, rather than the true victims of the system they really are.

Men can do better. Young men should be held accountable for their lustful behavior and develop some character instead of consuming content that exploits the vulnerable position of women in society.

[Scholar]

Another issue is that, the societal attitudes required to maintain the stigma that we apply to sex-workers like OnlyFans models (people calling the whores and whatever) already have a higher cost on consciousness/development than the sex-work has on those models.

You are dehumanizing other people, shaming them, treating them cruelly. A society that just does this for some supposed utilitarian gain (in the end it's actually just motivated by ignorance and fear) is a society that is unconscious. A conscious society doesn't treat sex-workers like this, a conscious, mature society would view that as untenable.

 

What is so perverse about society is that it the proposed mechanism of protection becomes the very mechanism that harms and dehumanizes the individuals who are framed as the victims. We have to maintain the purity of women, so we have to shame them for being promiscuous, because it's bad for their psychology to be promiscuous. But the solution is more harmful than the problem it tries to solve.

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Scholar said:

You basically are the equivalent of an OnlyFans whore.

When an OF whore explains all of existence to you, you may have a point.

Until then, keep dreamin.