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Brain rewrites memories each time you recall them.

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29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

I think it isn't as extreme as saying the brain totally changes shit when we recall memories, but they gradually shift and change with each recall. I think it is a very slow process.

There are actually shitloads of studies and well established findings around memory being a reconstruction that shifts over time. Frederic Bartlett, Elizabeth Loftus did work on how we actively fill gaps with what makes sense, change details to match beliefs, simplify shit and how we can genuinely be convinced of shit that never happened. Satanic Panic stuff. Hermann Ebbinghaus did work on how time degrades accuracy of memory.

We can skew the original sensory imprint we have due to internal biases within us. 

As soon as you alter the language we use around a memory ie smashed vs hit this can change a lot. It is some of the basis around neuro linguistic programming.

It is actually a huge foundational point to reaffirm your case that bias is just THAT big in humans.

Not arguing against your good memory, more that I have seen the sort of stupid shit people pull with recall. Brainwashing themselves.

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It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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This is the whole reason statue of limitation exists. Memories eventually become unreliable unless they're kept alive.

The Mandela Effect comes to mind.

  • Was there a show called "Sex In The City" or "Sex and The City"? 
  • Is it "Oscar Meyer" or "Oscar Mayer"? 
  • Is it "Sketchers" or "Skechers" shoes? 
  • Did the Monopoly Man have a monocle?
  • Is there a hyphen in KitKat?
  • Did Forrest Gump say "Life is like a box of chocolates"?
  • Did Curious George have a tail?
  • How did Mickey Mouse hold up his pants?
  • Did Sinbad play a genie in the movie "Shazaam"? lol 

Answers: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/

Aside from making shit up, we also create memories by imagining things, and then in the future we sometimes mistake what we imagined for an actual experience. For example, when I was a kid I heard stories about traumatic situations that I was too young to remember, and so I created really vivid pictures/clips in my head about what took place, and for most of my life I thought those imaginings actually occurred. 

We're all susceptible to these things. 


What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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45 minutes ago, Joshe said:

The Mandela Effect comes to mind.

  • Was there a show called "Sex In The City" or "Sex and The City"? 
  • Is it "Oscar Meyer" or "Oscar Mayer"? 
  • Is it "Sketchers" or "Skechers" shoes? 
  • Did the Monopoly Man have a monocle?
  • Is there a hyphen in KitKat?
  • Did Forrest Gump say "Life is like a box of chocolates"?
  • Did Curious George have a tail?
  • How did Mickey Mouse hold up his pants?
  • Did Sinbad play a genie in the movie "Shazaam"? lol 

Has nothing to do with the accuracy of my memories.

This is irrelevant trivia.

Edited by Leo Gura

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There is a method practiced by people in neville goddard sub and many loa forum called revision. Where they revise things happened in the past according to how they want it be played out. Gives them more power.

 


I will be waiting here, For your silence to break, For your soul to shake,              For your love to wake! Rumi

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

How do you know slight details and certain emotions didn’t change in the memories over time? 

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@Raze How do you know you weren't a gorilla until yesterday?


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8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Raze How do you know you weren't a gorilla until yesterday?

I thought you explicated that God is always imagining its past in the present moment - meaning nothing ever "happened", and your entire past is imaginary. If that is true and the absolute claim you thus make is that God is always imagining it's memories, why does imagining your memories in the relative human sense suddenly become an unrealistic claim for you? If God's memories are fake in the absolute sense, that should only make you doubt your memories more in the relative domain, considering the relative is a derivative of the absolute, no?

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40 minutes ago, gengar said:

If God's memories are fake in the absolute sense, that should only make you doubt your memories more in the relative domain, considering the relative is a derivative of the absolute, no?

No


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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Has nothing to do with the accuracy of my memories.

This is irrelevant trivia.

If you have very high confidence that Forrest Gump said “ life is like a box of chocolates”, then you have high confidence in something that isn’t true. Lol. It doesn’t matter if it’s trivial or irrelevant. It’s good to understand the implications of this. 


What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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2 hours ago, Harikrishnan said:

There is a method practiced by people in neville goddard sub and many loa forum called revision. Where they revise things happened in the past according to how they want it be played out. Gives them more power.

This overlaps with neuro linguistic programming.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't remember many things, but those I remember, are accurate. I don't just make shit up like some sloppy fool these scientists would like me to believe.

They are saying you can tho. You not doing it dosent have anything to do with the article. And you might actually be doing it and not realize.  Acknowledging that the memory is true is changing it.

Acknoledging that a memory happened and is not happening is an update to the memory.

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1 hour ago, Joshe said:

If you have very high confidence that Forrest Gump said “ life is like a box of chocolates”, then you have high confidence in something that isn’t true. Lol. It doesn’t matter if it’s trivial or irrelevant. It’s good to understand the implications of this. 

Mama always said, life is laik a box a chock-laats. Ya neva know whacha gonna get.

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What the fuck is memory anyway - it's literally the small 'self' 💀


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@Natasha Tori MaruThe substance that keeps you in the current dream. The karma. Just things you keep saying yes that happened.

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@No1Here2cThought patterns that keep coming back that you keep adding too unconciously.

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@No1Here2cYou are constantly reading the files all day. Anytime you are thinking you are thinking of a memory. You cant not do it.

Everytime you think of a thought its like a chat gpt algorythm spitting out thought chains you have reacted too.

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@No1Here2cYes there is unconcious reinforcement. Everytime you think of something its like your brain is rewriting a memory file. You acknowledging as true or not is a rewrite.

For instance people are talking, you have something to relate to the topic a memory comes up. You say the memory as its true thats a reinforcement.

You sit in your room you think or something that happened, you acknowledge it as true or have happened. You rewrite the data file to be true.

Reading the file is the rewrite(having the memory). Whether you add or dont add anything to it.

The last thing about the thought is what you are rewriting onto the thought loop, if you dont add anything you just rewrite it as it is. The data file (thought loop) plays out and then you can add or remove or not interact.

You become conscious of the reinforcement when you become conscious of the thought.

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17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I remember 9/11 crystal clear.

As do surely 99.9% of the human population because the brain is hardwired to remember the shocking, vivid, visual, disturbing pattern interrupts like 9/11 

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@No1Here2cHaving the memory is doing that. Its like a computer opening and reading a notepad file and you are the computer asking how do I turn this in on itself. You already are thats what reading the file means. Just pay attention to what you are reading and rewriting.

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