Hojo

Brain rewrites memories each time you recall them.

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https://thedebrief.org/your-brain-rewrites-your-memories-each-time-you-recall-them-new-study-finds/

 

Memory = data file

Everytime you remeber data file you analyze it.

You try to analyze it as accurately as possible but can manually overwrite parts of the data file.

You can just make shit up and change the data file or memory.

You can do this with all memories and now your data files are totally fucked and your life story dosent make any sense.

Or does reality have to bend to your knee?

Next time you have a memory you dont like just rewrite it.

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why then do i have to regularly maintain the false scenes where the girl from my past is my girlfriend each time while gooning?

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Memory is a lot more fluid than people think. The overwriting mechanism explains how to heal memories of trauma, and how bad situations can seem a lot less bad as time passes, or how two people can disagree on the same events. It's even possible to implant false memories by hypnosis, or even by just by exposure to photographs for example. It also explains how some of the therapy techniques in Neuro Linguistic Programming works, such as anchoring.

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@LastThursday Agree - when I begun the NLP rabbit hole this really became apparent.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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Sorry, I don't buy it.

My memories are very accurate and they don't change.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Natasha Tori Maru yeah I did a some intensive NLP courses back in the day, sort of got into it by proxy via my Dad, who's even worked with John Grinder. I understand the power of rewriting memories first hand because of it.

@Leo Gura there's no denying that some people have more accurate or fuller recall. Marilu Henner is an actor (look her up) who has nearly perfect autobiographical memory or hyperthymesia. She can recall what happened on any particular day just by giving her a date - which is astounding.

But memory is quite a broad category. I'd say it includes autobiographical, visual, sound, touch, taste and so on. Also procedural memory, and memories "held" in the body, such as emotions and trauma.

I myself have very good visual recall, and very good recall for abstract stuff. I vividly remember stuff from being a very young kid. But is it accurate? I'm not so sure and I have nothing to back up my memories other than asking immediate family and some old photographs. When it comes down to it, to know if your memories are accurate you have to compare them something else.

Memories are a kind of abstract reconstruction put together from many different sources. To use a computer analogy they're stored in a very compressed lossy format, and during decompression you get artifacts and hallucination.


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What's memory? What is its purpose? And what are you even recalling?

Chances are one wasn't even clear on what was actually happening at the time, except for one's subjective experience and viewpoint.

Memory is pretty much biased from the beginning. 

Think about it: How do you recall? What do you do with your mind that you call recalling a past event? 

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10 hours ago, Hojo said:

Memory = data file

On 'Rewriting...'

You're on to something. Keep going w/ it, as thats a subject matter no one has breached, and involves alot of forethought/work put into. Theres alot more moving parts, outside of memory, as you have active, instantaneous perceptions to consider, and memory is a bit odd, as its mostly a short term memory phenomenon, if you know what i mean; that is, the micro-cycles of our current situation (theres a whole wide range of cycles and circular phenomenon, through predicting the next thing thats gona happen, and things like this) they form in a fluid way that makes it "hard to see clearly", and have more going on then we are ever really considering~or conscious of~that would then pertain to your ability to consider things in the long term. And you can almost drop the term "memory" in place of this thing i would call "Cycles (cyclical) routines in general".

p.s. that then gives you a much broader field of study to look @ You would still need the term memory for now, however if you can breach beyond cognitive science~you can get to a new field of study.

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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8 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

What's memory? What is its purpose? And what are you even recalling?

Chances are one wasn't even clear on what was actually happening at the time, except for one's subjective experience and viewpoint.

Memory is pretty much biased from the beginning. 

Memory is biased, obviously. That’s kind of the whole thing.

You’re not recalling some perfect version of the past, you’re recalling how your mind shaped it. That doesn’t make it meaningless, it just means it’s yours.

And whether it’s accurate or not isn’t even the main point. It still affects how you see things, how you react, how you move through life.

So it really comes down to whether you’re aware of how that bias is shaping you or not.

 

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(part2) i jus want to add something to what i was saying... As far as memory is concerned, you also have elements in Nature remembering things, that is, DnA is able to remember, and you have these elements that come back, "reminding" the person or persons... So for instance, theres whas called atavism where an ancestral genetic trait reappears after having been lost through evolutionary change in previous generations.

So the point is like, theres two different things, theres this fundamental memory that exists in all things, which geets down to the knitty grityy DnA, then theres whats going on from the very first point of perception, prior to the ability to form memories, and that is itself an important stance, cause it speaks to out first hand experience of building those memories (I dont know what you would consider nature, but you could just call it, first hand human perception vs. nature or something)

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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