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Professor Jiang created a video on the social matrix!!

His opening line: 

"Our world is a hallucination, a collective fantasy."

 

I watched this and the following videos in series to make sense of the evolving situation in Iran (which has been gripping my awareness and informing my financial/lifestyle actions lately):

- Eschatological Convergence

- Law of Asymmetry

- Escalation Ladder

- US-Iran War

His new video ties in well with Leo's OG Social Matrix video as a foundation.

 

Never ever have we had access to this many high quality teachings for free. Blessed to be alive today

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Listened to this yesterday and thought about posting it as well!

Ngl, this professor might be a teeny tiny crackpot and I’m trying to be careful with believing things he’s saying. But he does have a unique perspective, that’s for sure.

Edited by Sincerity

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@Sincerity Possibly crack-potty.

I don’t know how to check everything he says. Leo's work is very much "verify via direct experience," whereas Jiang's is highly intellectual, abstract, and based on other scholars/texts. 

Maybe others can offer their perspectives on this~

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He has some wise ideas. But gotta think everything through critically.


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19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He has some wise ideas. But gotta think everything through critically.

Yeah I'm also kinda sceptical. I've heard people say he might right-wing-anti-israel.

He has an interview with sneako that's a huge red flag.


 “No investigation, no right to speak.” -Mao Zedong 

 

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I've been watching his game theory series and now on episode 7, there is a lot of oversimplifications and I've tried to be careful with them but it's still been one of the most helpful and informative content for understanding the Game that the world plays and some principles and laws of it. I think this is the kind of stuff that should be taught in every school allthought the school system is not great for stuff like this and that's even one of the episodes in this series.

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He's one of those teachers that'd joyfully, enthusiastically explain why you failed his class and got an F, whilst smiling at you the entire time. And then at the end he'd ask "OK?" to make sure you understand


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20 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

He's one of those teachers that'd joyfully, enthusiastically explain why you failed his class and got an F, whilst smiling at you the entire time. And then at the end he'd ask "OK?" to make sure you understand

Lol. 😆 Maybe.

Or maybe not. We don’t know. His students could be reached out to and asked.


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I was just about to make a thread on him.  What do you guys think about him? I don’t think he’s entirely off but his models break down the higher he goes. He believes everything culminates in secret societies. A lot of dumb people run with his ideas. A lot of what he says is established and well grounded but he has enough fantastic ideas to hook idiots. I understand that and to a degree it’s part of being an interesting professor and lecturer where your ideas will be noticed but he veers a little too much into the doomsday angles. I don’t think everything he says will pan out in reality. 

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Marxists criticize him for arguing that secret societies are the main issue of geopolitics. They say this distracts from the real problem, which is capitalism. Also, antisemitism actually strengthens Zionism since Zionism is to a huge extent based in victim-identity.

I have even heard the theory that Jiang is actually funded my the Mossad to increase antisemitism for that reason. It is easier to justify violence against someone who is hateful. This does not seem so far-fetched when you learn that Israel funded terrorist groups and enabled them for that reason. This is actually how Zionism operates.

Professor Jiang might be Chinese, but he seems to be a liberal. Liberals can not liberate anyone because it is liberalism that is the problem. If you somehow get rid of the secret societies you will still have liberalism, and therefore you will still have endless wars.

But at the end I think there is actually an interplay between esoteric societies and capitalism.

It could be argued that this forum is in some way an esoteric group. The term esotericism originally does not mean "believing in bogus or in ideas that are not epistemologically grounded" but it actually just meant something like "advanced teachings that are only accessible to the few".

The isolation of these groups simply comes from the fact that just a very small minority of people can grasp truly advanced teachings and the secrecy comes from members trying to protect normies form heavy topics like suicide, nihilism, psychedelic use etc. Sounds familiar right?

What separates this forum from an esoteric society with material influence is that Leo and therefore most members of this forum don't believe materialism is significant and therefore don't have the motivation to have massive material influence in the world.

But this is not true for people who engage in occultism. The core principle of occultism is "as above, so below" which I interpret as encouragement to engage with and change material reality.

If you define a powerful esoteric society as: "A group of people with advanced teachings that use those teachings to influence material reality" then suddenly, Marxists-Leninists with their dialectical materialism fall under that definition. But of course, Marxism-Leninism does not have enough spiritual depth to be a complete esoteric society.

The reason why the western esoteric societies have such a disastrous impact on the world (if what Jiang is speculating is true of course) is not because they're evil or sadistic or some shit, it's simply because they are liberal.

I once went to a meeting of Freemasons and also a meeting of the Lectorium Rosicrucianum in Germany, and they were great people with spiritual depth and they were pretty harmless. There was indeed not baby on the menu, unfortunately.

However, they were hardcore liberals like pretty much all people in the west who are not educated in Marxism, historical materialism, anti-imperialism, etc. and also they are the whitest people I have ever seen.

The only upper hand these societies have over Marxism-Leninism is that they have more spiritual depth and a deep historical grounding in western culture. If one would infuse Marxism-Leninism with spiritual depth with imagery that is familiar to the west, communists would take over very quickly. This is exactly what I'm trying to do.

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 “No investigation, no right to speak.” -Mao Zedong 

 

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2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

He believes everything culminates in secret societies.

Everything?

I agree he emphasizes secret societies, but he also brings up eschatology (good for explaining conflicts in the blue/red middle east over the last 70 years).

Also the stages of empire model (200 year cycle).

Among other things.

2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

A lot of dumb people run with his ideas. A lot of what he says is established and well grounded but he has enough fantastic ideas to hook idiots.

Can you show examples of people misusing with his ideas? I haven't seen any yet.

On 3/19/2026 at 7:48 PM, Ode said:

I've been watching his game theory series and now on episode 7, there is a lot of oversimplifications and I've tried to be careful with them but it's still been one of the most helpful and informative content for understanding the Game that the world plays and some principles and laws of it. I think this is the kind of stuff that should be taught in every school allthought the school system is not great for stuff like this and that's even one of the episodes in this series.

Not trying to justify his actions, but I think he oversimplifies his stuff because he's teaching to high schoolers.

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@Cred, a lot of what you wrote is pure speculation.

These people said this. Those people said that. Phases like "I've even heard," "could," "might," "this does not seem" make it sound like you're loosely stitching stuff together. 

By the way Jiang is ethnically Chinese, but Canadian by nationality. He is very open about his upbringing in his Geo Update #8 video. 

2 hours ago, Cred said:

The reason why the western esoteric societies have such a disastrous impact on the world (if what Jiang is speculating is true of course) is not because they're evil or sadistic or some shit, it's simply because they are liberal.

I once went to a meeting of Freemasons and also a meeting of the Lectorium Rosicrucianum in Germany, and they were great people with spiritual depth and they were pretty harmless. There was indeed not baby on the menu, unfortunately.

However, they were hardcore liberals like pretty much all people in the west who are not educated in Marxism, historical materialism, anti-imperialism, etc. and also they are the whitest people I have ever seen.

The only upper hand these societies have over Marxism-Leninism is that they have more spiritual depth and a deep historical grounding in western culture. If one would infuse Marxism-Leninism with spiritual depth with imagery that is familiar to the west, communists would take over very quickly. This is exactly what I'm trying to do.

I re-read this a few times and couldn't find a reason for what you were arguing for. Your claim was because secret societies are liberal, that is why they are destroying the west. Ok, interesting. 

But all you said was you went to some Freemasons meeting and they turned out to be white liberals with spiritual depth. But what about this actually supports your claim?

Not trying to be combative, just curious what point you're trying to be make.

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To be clear to all that read this, I’ve been binge-watching Jiang's material for the past 3 weeks. I did the same with Leo's material between 2020-2021.

At first with Leo's stuff, I was not only taking action on what he was teaching me, but I was also enamored by Leo and a really big fan of the Actialized personality. With time I distanced myself from the content and this forum to focus on my life. In recent months I've crawled back in and am happy to see it's stood the test of time in my worldview (even as I've changed).

I already see myself going through the early stages of this with Jiang's work. I am being careful not to swoon over his intellectual of charismatic personality, but to really take the info in responsibly and see how it all pans out. And if I become aware of red flags or you guys suggest some good ones, I'll take them into consideration. 

I feel skeptical naturally, yet I still haven't seen any visible major problems yet.

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Started watching these as well recently, very fun. 

But you gotta watch out for unverified claims though. For example:

The democrats support the war because it helps them win the next election << completely unverified claim and proven false. They publicly oppose, and hold back war efforts. It even creates friction in the Democratic party. 

Israel controls the world through AI (or wants to?) << he never backed this up with any evidence. I couldn't verify any mass surveillance at all. In fact, he goes on to say that recent footage of Netanyahu was AI and looked really fake, disproving his own claim. 

But overal I think this guy is about 80 - 90 percent right. 

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There is a tendency of which if you're smart and you know it and on top of that you are often right (such has been the case of the prof) and you also get huge social praise from your community (millions of views on the yt) that a weird psychology can often take place. You can start to believe, become enomoured with your own theories and ideas. Yt algorythims and eco chambers of supporters create a bubble of perception of correctness. Slowly but surely unless one is very careful and epistemically responsible as Leo often points out, corruption will take place and the once innocent professor Jiang will devolve into a hardliner like our friendly neighborhood JP (Jordan Peterson). 

Watch this space.

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If you take this guy seriously and can't spot him to be a charlatan within 30 minutes of his speeches, you really need to reconsider your education on history, politics and philosophy.

The guy is not a professor nor a historian, he is a high school teacher. Most of his prediction are laughably off.

 

It's hard to believe that he is anything but an intentional disinformation agent, spreading narratives that undermine the interests of the west and encourage more internal conflict. Though the guy is so unbelievably stupid, I wouldn't be suprised if it's just pure ignorance.

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@Scholar He has some insightful ideas. But also some weird, oversimplified narratives.

Edited by Leo Gura

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15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Scholar He has some insightful ideas. But also some weird, oversimplified narratives.

ya, he sounds like he does interesting analysis in some areas, but I have also heard him mention secret societies and the "illuminati' which raises a big red flag.  


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