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Why would it be impossible for God to create other minds?

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24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It gets very tricky because illusion is reality.

It's just like a dream. The people in your dream are real, until you wake up. They are real relative to inside the dream, but unreal relative to outside the dream.

Other is relatively real. Not absolutely real.

Your dreams are relatively real.

Okay, so my hot witch girlfriend is genuinely real while I am in my dream, and she was 'never' real after I wake up. 
The way the term relative is used in context of all the other stuff implies that God is not a bigger circle encompassing a smaller 'dream' circle but that it is the same size, and in fact the same circle as the dream circle. The term 'relative' defines not the location of being within that dream circle within a larger God circle but the state of that one circle. This is consistent with solipsism.
However, 'never' implies that there's an 'explanation' which changes the state of this circle from dream to real. This is because 'explanations' or 'realizations' tell you that the previous state was never real or the way it was. It creates a deeper more basal reality. When you enter the dream again the 'explanation' ceases to exist and therefore the dream becomes real once again. You could say god lowers its consciousness by ceasing 'explanations'.
 

Now, unless I am completely wrong about the way I have been going about this, how can we know that these 'explanations' take us to truth beyond 'making sense'? All they do is change the state of that one circle. Explanations create basal realities which didn't exist (because there's nothing beyond one's experience) prior to the explanation's being. How would you know that after you wake up from the dream, you are in the same reality you went to sleep in, because the explanation for the new reality (because reality implies there being an explanation explaining away the dream, therefore causing you to wake up.) would create a basal reality telling you how this reality was always real and never not real. 

Unless there exists only one explanation to your dream there can't be any guarantee that you're waking up in the same reality. This is seriously concerning because there can only be one Truth. Unless you explain away each truth as being a different aspect of the ultimate Truth, such as Love, Light, Suffering, etc. terming them as different 'awakenings'. 

How could you ever know these different aspects are taking you to the ultimate truth? Knowing depends on explanations after all, and I wonder if explanations can be trusted at all, because they always will make sense and create a basal reality. 

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20 minutes ago, caspex said:

How could you ever know these different aspects are taking you to the ultimate truth? Knowing depends on explanations after all

Awakening.

Awakening is not an explanation and it is more fundamental than knowledge.

Awakening is Truth itself.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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9 hours ago, Toranvor said:

Why would it be impossible for God to create other minds?

Because to create anything at all, implies the existence of a creator. And a creator would imply lack or limitation.
But God already being this immediate unlimited infinite infinity cannot lack anything. So the idea of “other minds”  is never the reality of God. 


I AM The Last Idiot 

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There is/are no others, ultimately. Its all one consciousness.

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@Ramasta9 But the Lizard!


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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