Leo

[AerisVahnEphelia]

7 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think you aren't necessarily disagreeing if I understand the above.

'Awareness is the first step' as they say. Key word there being FIRST. And the movement would be toward healing.

We can be fully aware of our issues and still be dealing with the brains maladaptive mechanisms operating like a reflex. Or a program. 

The brain is weird with trauma and experience in general. If only it worked in probabilities - instead it works in extremes in isolation. If we have one bad experience we tend to totally hone in on that ONE experience and extrapolate/find meaning there. And our behaviour and thinking is formed from the extreme experience. Instead of looking at all the different versions and outcomes (probabilites) of the experience that were more benign in nature. This seems to me to be a survival mechanism; pay attention to the lion chasing you after you and remember it always, and not the pebble in your shoe that finds its way in on the gravel road you walk down each morning.

I wasn’t disagreeing at all, I just got reflective with my own recent experience.
It’s hard to navigate people who believe they’ve transcended and therefore aren’t willing to grow or examine their own trauma or experiences.

You can’t really rise above something if you believe you’re already beyond it.
I always keep a window open to the possibility that my entire reality might be a complete delusion, just a way for my ego to navigate its own comfortable roleplay.

I’m not an expert on trauma healing. Most of “mine” was resolved through what I’d call karma burning or hardcore philosophy (Leo, Ralston type), basically controlling my attention and replacing “bad programming” with “good programming.”

But that doesn’t necessarily mean the deepest insecurities were truly transcended. I might still carry some that I’m not even conscious of.

Edited 11 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Natasha Tori Maru]

17 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I wasn’t disagreeing at all, I just got reflective with my own recent experience.
It’s hard to navigate people who believe they’ve transcended and therefore aren’t willing to grow or examine their own trauma or experiences.

You can’t really rise above something if you believe you’re already beyond it.
I always keep a window open to the possibility that my entire reality might be a complete delusion, just a way for my ego to navigate its own comfortable roleplay.

I’m not an expert on trauma healing. Most of “mine” was resolved through what I’d call karma burning or hardcore philosophy (Leo, Ralston type), basically controlling my attention and replacing “bad programming” with “good programming.”

But that doesn’t necessarily mean the deepest insecurities were truly transcended. I might still carry some that I’m not even conscious of.

I hear that - 100% with you  

Been a very similar process to my own. I am not sure if I could ever claim to have transcended shit. It would just be self deception if I spoke of overcoming all the cumulative conditioning I have gathered through life experience.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I hear that - 100% with you  

Been a very similar process to my own. I am not sure if I could ever claim to have transcended shit. It would just be self deception if I spoke of overcoming all the cumulative conditioning I have gathered through life experience.

The bullshit you see about me is that I m just french.
Sadly I suspect  certain things can't even be transcended . . we are just made of bullshit.
But I m almost certain than reckoning it is always better.

Edited 11 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Joseph Maynor]

4 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I m playing all you.

So you assume the other is some feature of you basically?

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

So you assume the other is some feature of you basically?

That's you projecting Joseph. 

Wait. . 

[Sincerity]

15 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Me wishing Leo to go to therapy is done out of love.

The thing is that you don’t know whether he needs it. He’s already said no, but people love to think they know what’s best for someone else and insist on it.

Love is also respecting one’s will and choices. Even if you personally would do things differently.

Also, I don’t believe love was the prime motivator for this thread from the start. I was mainly talking about charitability in the context of the thread. But I don’t know, you be the judge of what your motivation/dynamic was.

15 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

And the "child-parent" narrative is cute, perhaps projection.

I called it child-parent, but it’s about perceived authority in general.

You are no stranger to this dynamic. We as Mods experience it at times towards us.

Edited 27 minutes ago by Sincerity