Owen Cooks Dropping BOMBS!

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

Extroverted girls are like charismatic guys with game.

They are very emotionally fun in the beginning but hard to build a proper functional relationship with. The more extroverted a girl is, the harder it is to keep them happy in a relationship.

In simplified terms.

Social circle game works best with that. Because extroverted people have a deep connection to the outer tribe. Might as well she do that within your network and events that are related to you. 

I once hosted a dinner with a few girls that worked at the Stampede which is the biggest event of the year here in Calgary. They spent like 5 minutes talking about their time working there and me and the guy throwing the dinner didn't even go so we were just blocked out of the conversation. Paul Vickers the guy that runs the biggest events during Stampede is just a dude at a higher level than us though that runs a bigger social circle that's economically successful enough to employ a lot of hot women in the city.

One day I'll get there. 

Edited 13 hours ago by LordFall

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I love finding me a girl who lives under a rock

This is a good pickup line.

[Miguel1]

2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

One day I'll get there. 

I'll pass 

[Miguel1]

If you see me out socializing, you would think I'm the biggest extrovert out there.

But man, nowadays I can't stand heavy socializing for much. Only occasionally.

I rather spend my time doing serious, deep, meaningful work. And doing beautiful art. It actually fits my personality, especially as I mature more.

ENFJ that matures, goes from Extraverted Feeling leading to Introverted Intuition leading.

I love me nothing more than an emotionally mature girl to connect deeply with. I'd pick that over 10 shallow girls anytime of the year.

How Owen does that is beyond my understanding. I think we got some satisfying answers in this thread tho.

[Miguel1]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is a good pickup line.

Frame controlling from the start. I see what you did there 

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

How Owen does that is beyond my understanding.

It is an open question for me whether he's an introvert or extrovert.

I don't see a true introvert being happy socializing as much as he does. It doesn't make sense. A true introvert would be too exhausted with that. I don't have the energy to yap about nothing that much.

Edited 12 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Basman]

I still don't know wtf a frame is. 

I can frame cancel in Smash. That's all the frame you get. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

I still don't know wtf a frame is. 

Owen demonstrates it perfectly in the video. Watch it again.

Consider an animal like a lion. The lion is 100% in its own frame. Because the lion cannot even think what you think of it. The lion never feels insecure about itself. It never tries to look cool. A lion can take a shit and not care if you are watching. That's 100% frame.

Be the lion.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

The only thing I disagree with Owen is that he discounts too much that looks don't mater. If a girl likes your looks you get a huge discount. And if you don't have the looks she is expecting you have to make up with frame and emotional spiking (manipulation). Mind you that Owen is not the best looking guy so he has to make up in different ways. If he didn't have game he would be dating 4's and 5's but with game he is dating like 8's from what I have seen.

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, AION said:

The only thing I disagree with Owen is that he discounts too much that looks don't mater. If a girl likes your looks you get a huge discount. And if you don't have the looks she is expecting you have to make up with frame and emotional spiking (manipulation). Mind you that Owen is not the best looking guy so he has to make up in different ways. If he didn't have game he would be dating 4's and 5's but with game he is dating like 8's from what I have seen.

You don't need frame for that per se.

If you talk to enough women, even if you aren't good looking, you will find some hot women who are still attracted to you.

It's really a numbers game.

If you talk to 1000s of women, a few 9s and even 10s will find your look acceptable.

That's how it works for me. I'm not that attractive, but if I go out enough some very hot girls will be down.

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need frame for that per se.

If you talk to enough women, even if you aren't good looking, you will find some hot women who are still attracted to you.

It's really a numbers game.

If you talk to 1000s of women, a few 9s and even 10s will find your look acceptable.

That's how it works for me. I'm not that attractive, but if I go out enough some very hot girls will be down.

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

I don't have time to approach thousands of women. For most girls I'm a 7, so I go for 6's so a lot of women take that offer because it is a good deal for them. With social proof I can get 8's.

9's and 10's don't have low standards from my experience. They already have an abbundance of options so they either have to be drunk or you need to have good game/manipulation skills. Like if you can trigger her daddy problems or something you are set.

Edited 10 hours ago by AION

[Zen LaCroix]

On 3/16/2026 at 6:34 PM, Leo Gura said:

Yes, thanks for sharing this. I don't know Owen personally, but this rings true.

Over-compensating for autism and looks makes sense.

Owen himself  has said a bunch of stuff around this overcompensation topic specifically he said you have to act and carry yourself like a highly attractive man but 10x it to compensate for your lack of looks. And you have to hold frame because you will be tested on it for acting like that  when you don't look like that type of guy.

You also have to hold frame because you are not going to be constantly validated and getting girls throwing themselves at you for nothing. If you don't validate your own frame then your state will crash and your frame will crumble due to rejection. And if you need positive feedback to maintain your frame then you are done!

Which I've found rings true

He says you basically wanna be the ugly guy who thinks he hot. Every girl at some point has or will date a guy who isn't good looking and you can be that guy. A one of one  unique man

Edited 10 hours ago by Zen LaCroix

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Zen LaCroix said:

Every girl at some point has or will date a guy who isn't good looking and you can be that guy.

Hot dog! Where do I sign?!

[Zen LaCroix]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need frame for that per se.

If you talk to enough women, even if you aren't good looking, you will find some hot women who are still attracted to you.

It's really a numbers game.

If you talk to 1000s of women, a few 9s and even 10s will find your look acceptable.

That's how it works for me. I'm not that attractive, but if I go out enough some very hot girls will be down.

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

The thing is if you don't have frame then you'll just take on the societal frame which is this girl is better than me because she looks better than me she's out of my league so you just won't approach or you'll be weird or you'll approach her in a low value way because you believe she is better than you

You may feel insecure about your looks where you should actually feel confident for no reason at all because confidence in itself is sexy

Society's frame at least in America is that the man should chase the woman for example. There are many issues with society's frame

[Leo Gura]

Actualized.org fixes the frame problem completely by giving you the ultimate frame:

I Am God

Awakening gives you the best possible inner game.

Inner game is just Self-Love!

Ta-daaaa!

That's why women love narcissists. Because they naturally love themselves.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's why women love narcissists. Because they naturally love themselves.

I thought the selfish love of the Ego was something entirely different than God's selfless self-love?

[gengar]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

Dude, you're 6'3, and average in face. That makes you way above average overall. Are you really as delusional to think you belong to the lower levels of looks? 

But it just goes to show, even if you're at Leo's level (above average), you still need 1000s of approaches, even when the majority of men have given up and are sitting at home. Women's hypergamy knows no end. 

I hope Iran ends your country once and for all. This world needs to end ASAP.

Edited 6 hours ago by gengar

[gengar]

From Leo leading me out of the blackpill back in the early 20s to a forum where the blackpill has basically become mainstream concensus is a sick plottwist to say the least. The world is truly ending. Christians, Jews and Muslims are fighting a holy war in the middle east. Nothing has changed.
It's entirely over. I just hate I never got to make my parents proud. That and a fucking girlfriend or wife is all a man asks for in this life. Yet the world is ever brutal. It's a tough pill to swallow that this absolute sick level of unfairness is according to God's design, yet also easy to see once you take your Ego out of it. To be truly fair and equal God must allow the world to be able to be as unfair as it wants. 
I hope his mercy encompasses all things. I don't want to go to a dimension of suffering once this all ends.

Oh, and FUCK OWEN COOK.

[Leo Gura]

@gengar Dude, how many girls have you talked to?

You need to try harder and read less internet doom.

I know it feels cruel and unfair, but it is so much better when you actually just go socialize.

Internet doom is an illusion. Be careful with it. The internet is NOT real life.

I am not 6'3".

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gengar]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@gengar Dude, how many girls have you talked to?

You need to try harder and read less internet doom.

I know it feels cruel and unfair, but it is so much better when you actually just go socialize.

Internet doom is an illusion. Be careful with it. The internet is NOT reality.

I have an acquired disability and my social anxiety is so bad that I often get palpitations when socializing.
Not saying you should feel sorry but it feels impossible after trying so many times and failing at the most basic stuff. 
Would you tell a badger that misses a paw to just go ahead and try? No, and in reality that badger fucks off and dies in a ditch somewhere. This is not me being pessimist, it's just the hard reality. 
I'm sorry if my posts are too harsh. I just have nobody to talk to and am basically giving up hope at this point. This place is the only place online where I feel like there's not complete retardation going on. 
I know I shouldn't drag this place down with my negativity, I just had the urge to rant and vent, I'll keep it cool.

Edited 5 hours ago by gengar