Owen Cooks Dropping BOMBS!

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

Extroverted girls are like charismatic guys with game.

They are very emotionally fun in the beginning but hard to build a proper functional relationship with. The more extroverted a girl is, the harder it is to keep them happy in a relationship.

In simplified terms.

Social circle game works best with that. Because extroverted people have a deep connection to the outer tribe. Might as well she do that within your network and events that are related to you. 

I once hosted a dinner with a few girls that worked at the Stampede which is the biggest event of the year here in Calgary. They spent like 5 minutes talking about their time working there and me and the guy throwing the dinner didn't even go so we were just blocked out of the conversation. Paul Vickers the guy that runs the biggest events during Stampede is just a dude at a higher level than us though that runs a bigger social circle that's economically successful enough to employ a lot of hot women in the city.

One day I'll get there. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I love finding me a girl who lives under a rock

This is a good pickup line.

[Miguel1]

2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

One day I'll get there. 

I'll pass 

[Miguel1]

If you see me out socializing, you would think I'm the biggest extrovert out there.

But man, nowadays I can't stand heavy socializing for much. Only occasionally.

I rather spend my time doing serious, deep, meaningful work. And doing beautiful art. It actually fits my personality, especially as I mature more.

ENFJ that matures, goes from Extraverted Feeling leading to Introverted Intuition leading.

I love me nothing more than an emotionally mature girl to connect deeply with. I'd pick that over 10 shallow girls anytime of the year.

How Owen does that is beyond my understanding. I think we got some satisfying answers in this thread tho.

[Miguel1]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is a good pickup line.

Frame controlling from the start. I see what you did there 

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

How Owen does that is beyond my understanding.

It is an open question for me whether he's an introvert or extrovert.

I don't see a true introvert being happy socializing as much as he does. It doesn't make sense. A true introvert would be too exhausted with that. I don't have the energy to yap about nothing that much.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Basman]

I still don't know wtf a frame is. 

I can frame cancel in Smash. That's all the frame you get. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

I still don't know wtf a frame is. 

Owen demonstrates it perfectly in the video. Watch it again.

Consider an animal like a lion. The lion is 100% in its own frame. Because the lion cannot even think what you think of it. The lion never feels insecure about itself. It never tries to look cool. A lion can take a shit and not care if you are watching. That's 100% frame.

Be the lion.

Edited 50 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

The only thing I disagree with Owen is that he discounts too much that looks don't mater. If a girl likes your looks you get a huge discount. And if you don't have the looks she is expecting you have to make up with frame and emotional spiking (manipulation). Mind you that Owen is not the best looking guy so he has to make up in different ways. If he didn't have game he would be dating 4's and 5's but with game he is dating like 8's from what I have seen.

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, AION said:

The only thing I disagree with Owen is that he discounts too much that looks don't mater. If a girl likes your looks you get a huge discount. And if you don't have the looks she is expecting you have to make up with frame and emotional spiking (manipulation). Mind you that Owen is not the best looking guy so he has to make up in different ways. If he didn't have game he would be dating 4's and 5's but with game he is dating like 8's from what I have seen.

You don't need frame for that per se.

If you talk to enough women, even if you aren't good looking, you will find some hot women who are still attracted to you.

It's really a numbers game.

If you talk to 1000s of women, a few 9s and even 10s will find your look acceptable.

That's how it works for me. I'm not that attractive, but if I go out enough some very hot girls will be down.

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

Edited 51 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need frame for that per se.

If you talk to enough women, even if you aren't good looking, you will find some hot women who are still attracted to you.

It's really a numbers game.

If you talk to 1000s of women, a few 9s and even 10s will find your look acceptable.

That's how it works for me. I'm not that attractive, but if I go out enough some very hot girls will be down.

This is brutal to say, but some girls just have low standards for physical attractiveness. Those are my girls!

I don't have time to approach thousands of women. For most girls I'm a 7, so I go for 6's so a lot of women take that offer because it is a good deal for them. With social proof I can get 8's.

9's and 10's don't have low standards from my experience. They already have an abbundance of options so they either have to be drunk or you need to have good game/manipulation skills. Like if you can trigger her daddy problems or something you are set.

Edited 21 minutes ago by AION

[Zen LaCroix]

On 3/16/2026 at 6:34 PM, Leo Gura said:

Yes, thanks for sharing this. I don't know Owen personally, but this rings true.

Over-compensating for autism and looks makes sense.

Owen himself  has said a bunch of stuff around this overcompensation topic specifically he said you have to act and carry yourself like a highly attractive man but 10x it to compensate for your lack of looks. And you have to hold frame because you will be tested on it for acting like that  when you don't look like that type of guy.

You also have to hold frame because you are not going to be constantly validated and getting girls throwing themselves at you for nothing. If you don't validate your own frame then your state will crash and your frame will crumble due to rejection. And if you need positive feedback to maintain your frame then you are done!

Which I've found rings true

He says you basically wanna be the ugly guy who thinks he hot. Every girl at some point has or will date a guy who isn't good looking and you can be that guy. A one of one  unique man

Edited 10 minutes ago by Zen LaCroix