5-MeO-DMT for longevity - Bryan Johnson

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Natasha Tori Maru

I just see "guy do cool stuff" and I go "woo!". I don't see much philosophy in it, any more than I see philosophy in the fastest or strongest athletes in the world reaching for the highest heights. It's a celebration of life in a sense. "Being remembered in the 25th century" I think you took that a bit too literally, imo that's simply visionary ambition (I don't see it as him wishing to be remembered but he using that mental image, the standards of health in the 25th century, for the standards he strives for). "Ego" I want to use for people to use that ambition to grandstand over others. Direct comparisons and low vibration.

I'm going by what he repeats over and over again, his history and how grand vision. Combined with being a member of the elite. I just don't trust anyone famous or part of the rich upper class who do the 'podcast circuit' and all attend the same cliquey events. It makes me skeptical as fuck. 

Combined with him trying to be so charming. I do not trust charisma and charm. It's a red flag for me. It isn't needed if you have integrity and are a healthy individual. So I have a bias. 

And yeah I can concede everyone is egoically motivated. But a big ego is always slippery. And I think opens is up to corruption moreso. 

These silly rich elites are always so greedy for more. And I see this reflectes in Bryan's ideology. Regardless of how he professes this is for everyone - it's just a different wrapper on the same shit. I do not trust him. Simple as that. I think he has some mental health issues - he is pathological with his application of protocols. His money could be better spent elsewhere and the hype makes me 🤢🤮

But I respect your position 😁

Edited yesterday at 04:20 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[LoneWonderer]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 and the hype makes me 🤢🤮

The hype isn't real 😢😢😢 (feeling sad as in contrast to when the hype is real! :D)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, LoneWonderer said:

The hype isn't real 😢😢😢 (feeling sad as in contrast to when the hype is real! :D)

Haha, I love the wellness vampire who sells eevo called 'snake oil' 🥹 

He does some good chit with his 4 pillars advice. Solid 

[Florian]

On 6.4.2026 at 1:35 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Florian hey man, I just questioned some gaps in Bryan's philosophy. It's got nothing to do with you. I didn't make a comment about your character, I make comment about the arguments you present. I pointed out you glossing over the seriousness of people with terrible rng quality of life by stating 'sleep fixes most emotional problems'. I did remark that you might have some egoic attachment to Bryan though, if you feel a compulsion to defend or become emotionally charged over this topic. I think the nature and volume of your replies makes this a logical inference.

Where did I say that? I questioned his philosophy and how it applies to those individuals and how he avoids addressing it. Like he avoids addressing any question that might poke a hole in 'Dont Die'. It points to the position of privileged alite living in a myopic bubble. I mean - for God's sake he equivocated someone on a ventilator, totally incapacitated, only able to breath and survive like that (endless suffering) as him signing his fucking will document! He literally thinks he understands that persons perspective based on the thought experiment or signing his will... 

I've personally lived with an individual who suffers from a cluster B personality issue. Sleep doesn't fix this. Sleep helps with most low level emotional regulation issues. But most people aren't so fragile that 30 minutes less bricks their system. Bryan has thyroid issues. He only publishes his TOP STATS and won't release them all. There's just some inconsistencies in his behaviour.

I've stated many times the basics pillars Bryan emphasises are great. Overall he is doing some innovative things. But you can't just ignore the huge issues with his philosophy. You can't ignore the fact that if something ends up working to extend his life, we have no way of knowing what worked. And that's mainly because his experiment is throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping something will stick. 

We won't know what spaghetti strand worked because there is no rigor on his experient. It's not controlled enough. Or at all. n = 1 isn't a viable experiment scientifically.

Couple that with his desire to create a religion 'my competitor is Jesus' + his don't die dinners. You have to critically question what's going on? He proposes AGI making all decisions for our wellbeing in those dinners. No decisions on our behalf. 

When you raise issues about the application of Don't Die projecting out to the future - his answer is the equivalent 'it will be alright, it will work itself out'.

It's not like I am not familiar with Bryan, I've been following him for longer than many. There are just some huge parts of his philosophy that are fucken weird and sloppy.

Again, yes I am gung ho raising this issues. And I want to hear the debunk, because I change my mind regarding my assessment of people all the time. I still dont see any evidence to convince me he is anything other than a grifter who slowly introduced the grift. 

It's just packaged in a nice way for people to digest it easier.

It's crazy to suggest closing the forum because you disagree with others... Holy moly !

You did not just question some gaps in his philosphy, you want to make him appear as a complete grifter and youre trying to frame this conversation with as if my ego is just hurt because Im so attached to Bryan Johnson + you either didnt adress my points at all or didnt adress them properly, like you still need proper sleep first if you want other therapies to work with severe mental ilness.

You are completly projecting your bs onto me and Bryan Johnson, you are toxic af stop interacting with me.

And I obviously didnt suggest closing the forum because I disagreed with others that statement of yours alone is a crazy attempt to gaslight and could be seen as an argument that it actually would be better to close this forum as you are a fucking moderator in here.

 

[Florian]

On 5.4.2026 at 7:32 PM, Lyubov said:

I know nothing about him aside from a couple youtube videos. I assume he was a tech guy that got stupidly rich. 

Ye I get it. He got stupidly rich but he paid the price for it.