On women settling for average men

[LordFall]

This is a great post to read, it's about a guy who makes good money who overheard his fiancee talking about settling for him and not being that attracted to him but it works it's fine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1rmhy5c/wibtah_if_i_left_my_fiancee_destitute/

I don't think this is something to be too concerned about if you have some decent self-awareness but it's a good example of why learning game and seduction is really important to have a high quality relationship. Otherwise it's very likely that if your partner questions herself if she hasn't already she'll just find you okay but because she's in scarcity like most humans she'll go with it to have a family and a decent standard of living. 

You can be a fun and exciting guy that learns to flirt with his girlfriend that has shit shit together it's not that hard even though a lot(probably most men) seem to fall short. Level up and become a world class man, I believe in you boys you got this.

This subreddit is one of the best ones on all of Reddit as it lets you learn vicariously from other real people's experiences. 

This relates to my other post on most men having no idea how low level they are; this guy just found the easy way actually. The hard way is when your girl actually cheats you and dumps you in a time of weakness.

 

Edited 17 hours ago by LordFall

[Valach]

This is just fear based behaviour, it is not really healthy. Game is also not as foundational to healthy relationship dynamics as you would think. Been there, done that.

[Hojo]

Men dont understand how often woman shit talk their husbands behind their back. I work with many woman and they are constantly doing it. Its like a daily thing. I work with philipino woman and white woman and I have never heard the philipino woman do it but like 60 percent of the white woman do it.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hojo

[Rigel]

How does a guy see a woman long enough to get engaged & not notice she’s not into him? He’s seriously lacking social awareness.

[bazera]

12 hours ago, LordFall said:

Level up and become a world class man, I believe in you boys you got this.

What are your criteria for a world-class man?

[LordFall]

8 hours ago, Valach said:

This is just fear based behaviour, it is not really healthy. Game is also not as foundational to healthy relationship dynamics as you would think. Been there, done that.

Feel free to elaborate but I'll disagree until you provide more context. You think learning to charm and seduce your girlfriend is not healthy behaviour? 

4 hours ago, Rigel said:

How does a guy see a woman long enough to get engaged & not notice she’s not into him? He’s seriously lacking social awareness.

So common, a lot of people settle for just okay relationships. I would say probably like 50%. 

4 hours ago, bazera said:

What are your criteria for a world-class man?

Provides a surplus of value to the people and women in his life. Fixed his insecurities and trauma. Is highly competent at some sort of skillset. Knows how to be funny and charming which fundamentally is about being in abundance of good emotions and confidence in your own ability to handle's life challenges. 

I don't date men but I'll notice a lot of times when I hangout with guys they're just clueless or just complain a lot or don't have the basic areas of life to be able to offer any value when you associate with them repeatedly. Whereas some other guys I learn something new each time I hangout with them, they have cool ideas for projects we could do together or just cool activities to do and they can introduce me to other cool people.

All of this is learnable if you care enough about life to put effort into learning the systems to make this happen. 

[Valach]

17 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Feel free to elaborate but I'll disagree until you provide more context. You think learning to charm and seduce your girlfriend is not healthy behaviour? 

If you do so to not lose her or to keep her loyal, I believe it is not coming from a healthy place. But my opinions are quite extreme in this regard. I have been and to certain degree still am involved in my local "game" community. I believe that an emotionally healthy person with good self esteem would never learn game. Or at least I haven't met one. Obviously you can "grow through it" so to speak and see that the issue was never really about woman and get a help needed. But it is rare.

Also this game being needed for a good relationship going is way too overblown. A lot of learning on how to be good with woman on the front actually reinforces the unhealthy patterns that manifest in relationships. I think the issue is that most people are simply way too traumatized and unhealed to hold a proper relationship. And so in place of that they expect to have this thing we call love or passion or whatever. From my experience that is not a healthy dynamic and not something that is gonna keep a long healhty relationship (mind you, those are very rare).

In a way yes, game will help you keep the woman in the relationship. But a unhealthy one for the most part. It is like giving a junkie another high to keep her around.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Valach