New Episode: Epistemic Responsiblity - Out Now!

[TheEnigma]

I saw your entire video. I agree. But in defense of science, I would say it is much easier to deal with specific variables for most people. My brother is in science/comp sci and he doesn't like it when I talk about too many examples at once, he will say "focus on one specific challenge/topic/issue at once. It's just much easier to discuss and improve. If you are talking about different aspects even within one axiom, then it's hard to know anything."

How come not taking psychedelics is epistemically irresponsible? 

Edited 9 hours ago by TheEnigma

[Terell Kirby]

It’s taken me a while to admit to myself the how pervasive belief systems are. I have to get honest with myself on how belief systems serve core survival functions for individuals and institutions alike.

As a human, my mind is designed to reduce the cortisol that comes with existential thinking and investigating the nature of things from first principles. That cognitive bandwidth is needed to focus on more immediate survival needs, there is a deep intelligence to belief systems in the way the serve finite organisms.

I say that to say holding various assumptions, interpretations and beliefs is the default for the human mind. And it doesn’t matter if a person holds a right or a wrong belief, what matters is the process. Most humans adopt beliefs from external sources because it simply requires less mental energy that can otherwise be used for survival.

For me, part of taking epistemic responsibility is understanding the nature of belief and appreciating its survival function. One has to go out of their way to really sit and consider all the layers of how belief systems advance society, as well as limit it in all the various ways.

[Yimpa]

6 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I love this quote from the video "there is no spirituality without understanding."  This is a key insight.  

Nice! Spirituality without tapping into infinite intelligence is like handing the steering wheel of reality to devilry. 

[gettoefl]

I've one responsibility. The correct ontology. There are two. Relative and absolute. Each has its own distinct epistemology. Science and religion.

[Davino]

Brilliant work Leo, I mean what else can be said. This is so foundational to the understanding of the mind and sense-making, the evolutive process towards Truth-seeking in ever greater holism. Lately in your videos I'm crying out of the profound beauty and insight being communicated, it's like tripping really. Thanks for the quality of your work, I'll soon make a donation, I feel bad I'm consuming this content free of cost.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, TheEnigma said:

How come not taking psychedelics is epistemically irresponsible? 

Because psychedelics shatter all paradigms. Every mind is stuck in some paradigm.

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura

It seems implied that earning a salary from an employer is epistemically irresponsible (as companies and corporations are collectives with a survival agenda).

Wondering how you square this with youngsters who are working to bootstrap their financial situation

 

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

It seems implied that earning a salary from an employer is epistemically irresponsible

I wouldn't say that. That's too extreme of a position. The bottom line is that you still have to survive somehow.

You can work for an evil corporation and still be epistemically responsible on your own, inside your own mind. You just happen to be stuck in the meantime in an evil corporation. Eventually you will leave when you get the opportunity. But you can't be perfect immediately. It takes years of work to improve your situation.

I wouldn't waste time being this perfectionistic.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

24 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

@Leo Gura

It seems implied that earning a salary from an employer is epistemically irresponsible (as companies and corporations are collectives with a survival agenda).

Wondering how you square this with youngsters who are working to bootstrap their financial situation

 

If you don't survive, what chance do you have to understand truth?

[Terell Kirby]

10 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

If you don't survive, what chance do you have to understand truth?

I’ll have to contemplate that

[gettoefl]

11 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

I’ll have to contemplate that

What I mean is, you will be dead so your desire for truth is squandered. There will always be some compromise. By eating food, you deny another food.

[bazera]

59 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

If you don't survive, what chance do you have to understand truth?

If you struggle to survive, or barely do so, truth will be the least of your priorities, even if you don't literally die.

I think people underestimate how powerful the survival force is.

[Leo Gura]

A core part of being epistemically responsible is being responsible about handling your survival.

If you have painted yourself into a corner survival-wise, then you have not be epistemically responsible.