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If "it doesn't matter who started it" is the rule then what happens is that the powerful will keep oppressing the weak and when the weak try to get some justice they get hit with the "how dare you terrorism!" and this is exactly what we are seeing. There is no such thing as terrorism or that is not the direct result of agression from the west.

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6 minutes ago, Cred said:

@Breakingthewall The more I learn about histrory, the more sure I am that if there is a conflict, the west has started that conflict out of some kind of superiority thinking.

This notion of "it doesn't matter who started it, the wiser one gives in" works in nursery school but it does not work in geopolitics.

Which conflict are you referring to? The war against Iran? Or the Gaza destruction? The Iran issue was indeed initiated by Israel, whose reasoning is that Iran has them surrounded by Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis, which constitutes open hostility.

Perhaps they shouldn't have done it, but they didn't do it out of Western superiority but rather out of a perceived threat.

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6 minutes ago, Cred said:

the powerful will keep oppressing the weak and when the weak try to get some justice they get hit with the "how dare you terrorism!"

For example, the Americans intervened heavily in Asia. in Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines, and they continue to have a strong presence there.

Do you think that Koreans or Japanese, due to the oppression they endure, would have justification for carrying out terrorist attacks against the West, burning flags at the Capitol, and promoting absolute hatred of the West as an essential value of their culture? Perhaps they would, but instead they create science, art, and industry. Then they put themselves in the same level than the Americans and compete with them. But of course, that's a mess and requires lot of work. Shouting hate is much more easier 

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27 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

For example, the Americans intervened heavily in Asia. in Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines, and they continue to have a strong presence there.

Do you think that Koreans or Japanese, due to the oppression they endure, would have justification for carrying out terrorist attacks against the West, burning flags at the Capitol, and promoting absolute hatred of the West as an essential value of their culture? Perhaps they would, but instead they create science, art, and industry. Then they put themselves in the same level than the Americans and compete with them. But of course, that's a mess and requires lot of work. Shouting hate is much more easier 

Nope, US didn’t occupy Japan and South Korea permanently and engage in indefinite violent civilian settlements and blockade, they just rebuilt and returned it quickly, completely different scenario.

Vietnamese killed thousands of Americans trying to expel them. North Korea hates America to this day because they are still sanctioned. You know nothing about history or politics.

You suffer from dunning krueger effect, where a person is ignorant and uninformed but as a result of this has more confidence in the accuracy of the beliefs despite being constantly glaringly wrong.

Combined with your inability to process new information the result is you revert to repeating incorrect statements over and over and your responses become more ignorant or just inane ramblings that are irrelevant to anything. You are literally getting debunked, responding to just part of the comment that doesn’t contain the debunk, write some dumb spiel, then repeat the same incorrect statement again. I’ve argued with actual children who don’t act this ridiculous.

I suspect you have some sort of insecurity and need to latch onto governments killing people you view as inferior as some sort of pathetic way to boost self esteem. Maybe you behaved like this in school and when people got irritated at you from not getting the point despite being told it over and over it gave you a inferiority complex and you use sadistic joy of bloodshed as a way to tell yourself you’re better. And before you whine about insults, that’s not an insult, you’ve been trying to “psychologically analyze” me for weeks.  

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1 hour ago, Raze said:

US didn’t occupy Japan and South Korea permanently and engage in indefinite violent civilian settlements

So they occupied permanently irán, that's why irán burn American flags for 50 years. I didn't know that, now I see the mistake. I thought that the Iranians used the hate to america Satan as an excuse to cover their lack of legitimacy. 

1 hour ago, Raze said:

suspect you have some sort of insecurity and need to latch onto governments killing people you view as inferior as some sort of pathetic way to boost self esteem

What are you talking about noble? Don't try to understand what is over your capacity. Stay in you place: hating america Satan because it's part of your identity. Don't worries you are not alone. Many are in your team. Those who need emotional clutches to walk 

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3 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Hamas's actions are also coming from survival concerns,

How does committing the October 8th massacre increase the chances of survival for the people of Gaza? And investing millions in creating a network of tunnels to fight from? Perhaps sending 14-year-old boys to blow themselves up with explosives would?

I see all of that as being more geared towards pleasing a god who demands that his religion prevail over the kafir, thus gaining paradise, not survival on this planet.

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38 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

 

Thr most intense day since the beginning of the war I think

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

So they occupied permanently irán, that's why irán burn American flags for 50 years. I didn't know that, now I see the mistake. I thought that the Iranians used the hate to america Satan as an excuse to cover their lack of legitimacy. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Raze said:

North Korea hates America to this day because they are still sanctioned. You know nothing about history or politics.

 

3 hours ago, Raze said:

You are literally getting debunked, responding to just part of the comment that doesn’t contain the debunk, write some dumb spiel, then repeat the same incorrect statement again. I’ve argued with actual children who don’t act this ridiculous.

 

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

How does committing the October 8th massacre increase the chances of survival for the people of Gaza? And investing millions in creating a network of tunnels to fight from? Perhaps sending 14-year-old boys to blow themselves up with explosives would?

I see all of that as being more geared towards pleasing a god who demands that his religion prevail over the kafir, thus gaining paradise, not survival on this planet.

How does destroying Gaza, or killing Iran's holy leader increase Israel's chances of survival ? They have just created more martyrs and future holy wars, that's all.

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13 minutes ago, Raze said:

I’ve argued with actual children who don’t act this ridiculous.

Maybe you didn't understand them. It's difficult to understand anything when your identity is at stake. You don't see the facts, only your identity. Then an emotional mechanism makes you perceive that by insulting your identity you remain safe.

Anything rather than question your absolute certainties and your hatred of Satanic America that make you feel secure. Like you, many people operate, limited by their absolute need to be adequate, to maintain an identity. In my opinion they are just cowards that sell their souls in exchange for belonging. 

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7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

How does destroying Gaza

Well, someone might think that if there's a city of two million inhabitants with enormous population growth whose absolute and essential principle is to hate you and want you to disappear, then if that city disappears, it's better for your safety. I don't know if that's correct or not, but it seems like obvious reasoning

7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

killing Iran's holy leader

Again, some could think that if those holy leaders have mansions, tons of gold, and all the regime leaders are millionaires, maybe they like life in earth, not just in paradise, then the next holy would claim a lot of braveries but maybe deeply he avoid crossing some lines, because it's so nice being millionaire doing nothing 

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Europeans are even less intelligent than Trump. UK helps U.S. bomb Iranian hospitals, then condemns Iran for attacking a uk military base, used to bomb hospitals and girls schools. All of these bombing runs have been from European bases, France has now allowed the u.s. bombers as well, I hope their Mediterranean fleet gets sunk, it's 2/3 their entire navy within Iranian range.

If Iran is responsible for hamas, what is Europe to the u.s., this wouldn't have been possible without European support.

 

The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com

UK foreign secretary condemns Iran's 'reckless threats' after strike towards ...

1 day ago — The foreign secretary has condemned Iran's strikes on a joint US-UK military base on the island of Diego Garcia

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Of all places, I though actualized.org would be safe from zionists trying to brainwash and gaslight you.

Well, at least we’re seeing the practical application of some of Leo’s videos :D

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Europe has gone full maga lying now, Diego Garcia is the same distance from Iran as London. Iran JUST proved they can hit ANYWHERE in Europe. They can reach the northern tip of Norway, ALL of Europe. Why on earth would they lie about this?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm120x4lzxo

"No assessment Iran could strike London, UK minister says"

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