Only 2 Personalities Can Awaken

[AtmanIsBrahman]

There are only 2 personality types that can awaken (in general), and they are INTP and INTJ.
Why is this the case? Let's look at the cognitive functions.

The first two cognitive functions define what someone will be drawn to. The first function is the hero function, the most important one that is your north star in life. The second function is the parent function, which is a complementary function that is also strong, though not as strong as the hero function.

For INTP, the first two functions in order are Ti (introverted thinking) and Ne (Extroverted Intuition).
For INTJ, Ni (Introverted intuition) and Te (Extroverted thinking).

Why is INTP fit for awakening? Ti allows them to care about truth above anything else, and they're also more likely to be logically correct. They filter everything through their own framework of how things work. Ne allows them to interconnect various ideas and generate new ideas in an ever-expansive way. Surprise, surprise-- Leo is an INTP.

Why are INTJs fit for awakening? Ni allows them to have deep mystical insights and intuitively track everything down to its source. Ni hero is a convergent intuitive process that takes in perceptions and tracks them all to their source. Te allows them to remain somewhat grounded by cross-referencing various existing perspectives and keeping an eye on efficiency.

Both types are good for spirituality in different ways. But the other types? All of them have other problems that make it unlikely they will awaken. The intellectual types are most likely to awaken because they have the most powerful, nonconformist minds. The other types are too conformist or uninterested in truth. But the other intellectual types (ENTP and ENTJ) are extroverted, which draws their focus away from truth seeking and toward the social domain.

So there is your blackpill for the day: if you're not INTP or INTJ, you probably won't awaken, at least not very deeply.



 

[Terell Kirby]

4 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

There are only 2 personality types that can awaken (in general), and they are INTP and INTJ.

** cough cough

ENFPs do it better 

[Leo Gura]

1) Most people won't Awaken, so this dramatically undercuts your point.

2) You should actually test your theory against real people who have Awoken. If you do that you will see your theory doesn't hold up.

[AtmanIsBrahman]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

1) Most people won't Awaken, so this dramatically undercuts your point.

2) You should actually test your theory against real people who have Awoken. If you do that you will see your theory doesn't hold up.

You're right, it was a little bit tongue and cheek. But I think there's some truth to it. Let's say that an INFP awakens-- they may have a profound mystical experience, but I doubt they'll really make sense of it on the level that an INTJ or INTP would.

So I would say mystical experiences are available to everyone, but truly understanding reality on a high level is something that correlates with personality. 

[Leo Gura]

@AtmanIsBrahman I think we need scientific data on this issue.

We need experimental data on which personality types Awaken most. This would be really valuable science.

Be careful not to assume the answer because I'd bet the answer will be counter-intuitive and surprising. 

I don't know the answer.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I guess I am set then?  INTJ 

Maybe it is more accurate to claim 'INTP / INTJ are the MOST likely to awaken?'

[Leo Gura]

It is most accurate to state that INTPs are the basest.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@Leo Gura ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

Is that some kind of Zelda bokoblin?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Is that some kind of Zelda bokoblin?

I'm farming trash mobs for broken weapons to fuse over here 😁

Edited 15 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Hojo]

I saw a video that said autists are the only non npcs.

[AtmanIsBrahman]

Sadhguru is actually a good example of this. He has had some degree of awakening, but his ability to explain it is very limited. He presents awakening as an experience of bliss if he ever explains it at all. Most of his teachings are more “your life is your karma” type stuff. 
And Sadhguru is probably an ISTP. It’s obvious he isn’t an INTJ or INTP as he’s not intellectual— even anti-intellectual. I think part of why his awakening doesn’t reach the depth of Leo’s is because of personality type.

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Sadhguru is actually a good example of this. He has had some degree of awakening, but his ability to explain it is very limited. He presents awakening as an experience of bliss if he ever explains it at all. Most of his teachings are more “your life is your karma” type stuff. 
And Sadhguru is probably an ISTP. It’s obvious he isn’t an INTJ or INTP as he’s not intellectual— even anti-intellectual. I think part of why his awakening doesn’t reach the depth of Leo’s is because of personality type.

You can't use that to judge his degree of Awakening. Just because he doesn't describe it as deeply as me doesn't mean anything. Yoga is not about describing Awakenings, it is about getting you there.

Yes, he is less intellectual, but that doesn't mean less deep. Many Awakened people prefer not to waste time describing it. That is a matter of taste and style.

Edited 15 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AtmanIsBrahman]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can't use that to judge his degree of Awakening

I get the sense that he’s not that awake. He’s done discussions where people directly asked him if everything is consciousness and he usually gives a waffling answer where he talks about chitta as pure consciousness, but referring to it as a state of consciousness and not what reality is.

Maybe Sadhguru has awakened to some facets but not others. I think he’s probably awakened deeply into the bliss facet, but I’m not sure about what else. And his mind is filled with Hindu beliefs.

[Joseph Maynor]

First we need to get clear about what awakening means.

[Joshe]

I think the majority of awakened masters are INFJ, which has lead Ni, just like INTJ except they have Fe instead of Te. Lead Ni seems to be the main thing. 

Another way of looking at is is about 15-20% of the population are born as systematizers. Of those, a few will be highly metacognitive. When the systematizing tendency pairs with high metacognition, you get deeper access to the inner world. There are other factors but I think these are the main ones that set the stage. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Joshe

[Leo Gura]

I find it laughable that they have personality types for Jesus, Buddha, etc.

You have no idea if these people even existed. Nevermind their personality types.

Has any of those people even been given a personality test? Doubt it. You can project whatever you want on those people.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Sincerity]

Don't underestimate the INFPs out there.  I've had great success already with the awakening endeavour. Still the white belt, perhaps even whiter than at the start, but grateful for the considerable progress made.

I think the statement that only 2 personalities can awaken is obviously false, but I'd definitely be more inclined to agree that introverts have a greater chance to awaken than extraverts. Still, these are gross oversimplifications.

The entire Myers-Briggs model is astrology for men.

Edited 3 hours ago by Sincerity

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

introverts have a greater chance to awaken than extraverts.

That is not necessarily true.

Isn't Sadhguru an extrovert?

Please be more careful with your assumptions and jumping to conclusions.

Awakened masters usually have way more weird traits going on than just personality type.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Sincerity]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

That is not necessarily true.

Isn't Sadhguru an extrovert?

I'm not very much into Sadhguru so I don't know.

Perhaps he seems that way but is really an introvert, similar to how someone would perceive you on the street (you mentioned once that people deem you surprisingly extroverted when they meet you). Or maybe he is an extrovert, I don't know lol.

Besides, I just said introverts probably have a higher chance. One guy doesn't change that.