Why Has Dating Collapsed? The Real Reason No One Talks About

[CARDOZZO]

2 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

I am gonna take a little break from this sub-forum.

@CARDOZZO was correct in the beginning of this thread. Should have listened to you 

There is a movement here on the forum where people who get results, process-oriented, get shit done are penalized for talking about their practices, results and solutions.  

The referees just sit on their couch doing nothing, evaluating, trashing, dismissing and they NEVER bring real solutions and they never talk about their results.

It is only about "God this, God that, take the enlightenment pill, survival is for the weak, do nothing, men are predators, women are angels, this is all an illusion". The general audience of the forum is allergic to taking action/healthy stage orange. This is sad. People in their 20s trying to emulate Leo's behavior at any cost. 

Edited 9 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[Valach]

@CARDOZZO I am doing fine with woman myself. My issue is the way some of the guys (including you) talk about dating & sex. A lot of guys in the pickup community (myself included) are doing that because of deep underlying issues and I think on this platform it is fair to point that out. I don't go into my local pickup community to oppose guys there. I sort of expect them to not be very conscious. But I feel like as long as we stay civil here, it is fair to point things out.

[Alexop]

3 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

@Alexop Yes, of course there’s a bunch of higher quality and more mature women, and usually it comes with age. The issue with age is that they lose their looks.

Girls in their 20s are rarely mature. People in general in their 20s are rarely mature.

What’s the new information?

But there’s a huge chunk of people who are 30+, has internal baggages, are immature and not in a place to build healthy relationships.

Loyalty & femininity are not the only conditions for a healthy relationship. They are not even the most important.

Yes I feel you, maybe you expect too much from a relationship? We are in the drak ages, society is as it is... Don't expect a woman to make you happy.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Men have always been hardcore rejected by women. I do not think this is new.

I do think many men these days are more hopeless and less 'what is the point'. Women too. Social media, nihilism, black pill. 

I don't think we can cleanly blame either sex for the issue. It is societal. People are the issue and not sex 🤣

Theres a privileged sort of expectation present formed though comparison, social media & lack of understanding of true intimacy. 

It might be important to realise many users are applying their own language and meaning to others here. More open enquiry is needed to understand all of our perspectives, instead of a cheap, easy label.

Edited 7 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[LordFall]

I haven't watched the video but the problem with dating is not really a problem imo. It's just a switch in social contracts. It's been happening since the sexual revolution but social media amped it up big time. They call it the blue pill, be a good man get a decent job and get paired up with a woman that's similar in lifegoals to you. That's still possible and common, just much harder when the whole system became decentralized leading to hypergamy.

I don't see the problem though, if you put some effort in you can a much better dating life than what was possible beforehand. Dating just became intentional as opposed to a default activity.

@Miguel1 What exactly is your problem with modern dating? Works perfectly as intended for myself and the guys I see taking it seriously. For the average person who doesn't put any effort and expects it to come by magic it's gonna be terrible though but is that such a bad thing? 

[CARDOZZO]

Low testosterone is a higher factor on the scale.

If you really have high testosterone, you can't live without sex or you'll have to masturbate everyday.

High-T guys have no standards. They are literally sex machines. Sad to say that but this is how their biology works. 

[CARDOZZO]

Imagine your whole life purpose is just to impregnate woman on earth. 

What a mind fuck.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

25 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Low testosterone is a higher factor on the scale.

If you really have high testosterone, you can't live without sex or you'll have to masturbate everyday.

High-T guys have no standards. They are literally sex machines. Sad to say that but this is how their biology works. 

Yeah I think low T could be an issue. I think there are a lot of new studies coming out about this being caused by microplastics in male gonads (if I am not mistaken). Really scary stuff. 

Apparently it effects men more than women.

Man we are fucked as a race lol 

[LordFall]

@CARDOZZO It's beautiful. The aren't really that many possibles types of purposes on earth. You can help your other selves out with survival and then find selves that you find attractive and pleasant to reproduce with. 

Sexuality is a beautiful thing, I'm glad God came up with it. Ponder it the next time you're high on something. The greatest duality we experience.