How Feminism Became The West's New Moral Authority

[Ulax]

On 16/02/2026 at 10:34 AM, zazen said:

A good test is to imagine being father to a daughter then ask - what kind of society would we want her growing up in? What would we want to be seen as normal by the wider culture. 

We actually need some haram police - some shame is a healthy tool for stabilizing society. It's either the hard way by force (actual haram police like in Iran or Saudi Arabia), or the soft way by cultural and social conditioning that approves or disapproves of certain behaviors. Western society removed the harsh way but also doesn't want the soft way because it ''hurts feelings''. Accept everything, pluralism until hitler gets voted, don't be so JuDgMeNtAl - no, its called discernment.

Agreed

[zazen]

I remembered this thread asking about what is feminine / masculine etc. This tweet was interesting in that regard: https://x.com/sovereignim/status/2028892302207230415?s=46&t=DuLUbFRQFGpB8oo7PwRglQ

 

“In man, she loves the masculine: risk taking, daring, conquest driven, ruthless, dominant, defiant, assertive - she loves the monster

But crucially too, she looks for the human in that monster, the beast that would be divine, and for that she looks for the feminine in him: intuition, receptivity, attunement, expressiveness, sympathy, sensitivity and nuturing

The former of course being more masculine than the latter, but the synthesis of each being perfectly masculine in a way that makes the former alone look primitive - for you see, to woman, the "true man" is a man who has integrated his feminine without losing his masculine - and in that sense, has transcended his primitive barbarianism to resemble god in his paternalism - fatherliness is apex masculinity, and the perfect father is God, but within man: the synergised synthesis of masculine and feminine within the male vessel.

It is for this reason she loves a man who knows how to appreciate her without being consumed by her or sycophantic to her, because he embodies the best of her without losing the best of himself. To simply prefer the feminine to the masculine is to self-betray, to surrender, to lose all respect and get nothing. To understand the feminine in all its darkness, appreciate its light, and incorporate that into yourself as a man whilst retaining your masculine edge is something else entirely.

In truth, most women are forced into unsatisfying mate choices: be it the sensitive attuned man who lacks ruthlessness, the cerebral man who lacks courage or sensitivity, or the ruthless man who lacks wisdom. Forced to pick a single lane, the ruthless will win everytime, but of course the best of men does not inhabit just one lane, but all.

But if she is greedy, and she is, for as the receptive principle she is endlessly devouring - then she longs for it all - she longs for man as both savagery and poetry - the paradox who has integrated contradictions in tension to resemble art - a man with the voltage to be as chaotic and thrilling as she is, whilst being reasonable and grounded enough to stabilise her. A man who can take her to the highest heights she's ever known, and then catch her as she falls without flinching - he is both adventurer and leader.

Very few women ever get to know such a man, for to be such a man is to, irrespective of all other factors, be the best of men. Which is why if you are a man who wants your pick of only the finest daughters, then becoming this man will grant you your wish.”

[Scholar]

On 09/02/2026 at 10:58 AM, Basman said:

I like feminism and I think it's good overall, but there are certain aspects of it that are problematic and has had negative consequences for society. A lot of men feel displaced today in large part due to feminism and how it treats men via cultural attitudes, institutions, etc. There is a lot of male resentment floating about.

The issue is that discussing feminism in a critical way is taboo. It makes it harder to make sense of it all. It's part of our liberal dogma that feminism is purely good.

Men feel displaced today because the internet has replaced socializing and eroded ways people did socialize. Males are resentful because they are lonely, lack social skills, friends and are outrage baited by social media into blaming progressivism for all their problems.

 

It's mindblowing to me that people like you pretend like bashing and shitting on feminism is somehow "taboo", when we currently have a MAGA administration in the US and everyone is shitting on everything that even smells a bit like progressivism.

The reason why we have such radical feminists is because conservitards cannot stop obsessing about this and every other progressive issue, unwittingly reinforcing the identity of anyone who considers themselves an activist. What you resist, persists.

Edited March 11 by Scholar

[Basman]

10 hours ago, Scholar said:

Men feel displaced today because the internet has replaced socializing and eroded ways people did socialize. Males are resentful because they are lonely, lack social skills, friends and are outrage baited by social media into blaming progressivism for all their problems.

True. Culture war is largely algorithmic.

10 hours ago, Scholar said:

It's mindblowing to me that people like you pretend like bashing and shitting on feminism is somehow "taboo", when we currently have a MAGA administration in the US and everyone is shitting on everything that even smells a bit like progressivism.

It's more like a lack of trust in institutions. Certain progressives policies, like for example immigration, where implemented without broad consent from the populace. That creates a sense that politics is opaque and not working in your interests, and is a bipartisan feeling in my opinion, but probably stronger among many conservatives.

The appeal of authoritarianism is that it gives voters a sense of agency. When MAGA sees protesters getting shot by ICE it's like the other shoe dropping for them.

Note that Trump and his voters aren't truly conservative by definition because he's undermining institutions and democracy as a whole. They are in fact revolutionary. By definition the opposite of conservative.

10 hours ago, Scholar said:

The reason why we have such radical feminists is because conservitards cannot stop obsessing about this and every other progressive issue, unwittingly reinforcing the identity of anyone who considers themselves an activist. What you resist, persists.

Reactionaries are probably also largely algorithmic in nature, but radical feminists have existed from the very start.

[Alexop]

On 2/10/2026 at 0:18 AM, Elliott said:

Why don't any of you point to any specific issue men are having, "exclusion" is not specific. I'm a straight white male and modern feminists go out of their way to be nice and interact with me, they approach me, they invite me back to their place, they buy me breakfast, honest to god.

As a straight white male, it seems like an absurd claim. No one excludes me, resents me, vilifies me.

They do vilify, this is not ironic, the same guys on here raging about feminism, the same ones asking how to get laid with pickup or tinder. They vilify being objectified, you guys just don't understand that you objectify women, they owe you nothing. You're literally not owed a wife.

You either met very mature people or you are a yes man. A masculine man has to treat these people like children. If he would be 100% honest, he will be out.

Not that I agree with the Title of this thread but saying nothing is wrong with the woke movement means you life in another reality. Look to that guy`s comment about dancing. One mus lead, one must follow, now that is a good argument.

Edited 10 hours ago by Alexop

[Elliott]

4 hours ago, Alexop said:

You either met very mature people or you are a yes man. A masculine man has to treat these people like children. If he would be 100% honest, he will be out.

Not that I agree with the Title of this thread but saying nothing is wrong with the woke movement means you life in another reality. Look to that guy`s comment about dancing. One mus lead, one must follow, now that is a good argument.

What woke toxicity are you referring to, what topics would I be a yes man on? The only thing I disagree with progressives on is socialism. I don't remember many details about this thread. I don't consider people like the hosts of the show The View to even be feminists, they're just idiots, there's people like that, but they're just repeating what they've heard, I think they're a minority just saying stuff for rage ratings, I've never met stupid people like that in real life. I don't go clubbing or even drink, myself, I think that eliminates a lot of idiots from my life, perhaps more than the common Actualized male.

Edited 5 hours ago by Elliott

[Brittany]

I was raised in a Conservative environment and had many anti-feminist views in the past.

But when I took the time to study more about it, I am realizing that feminism is a lot deeper and complex than I thought.

I am starting to see that New Age versions of "Femininity" and the "Divine Feminine" are way less evolved than Feminist literature. The New Age religion's approach to women is more similar to Christian conservatism and has no interest in deconstruction work but instead focuses on maintaining the already existing structure.

Feminism is hardcore and honest about how women have been programmed and conditioned mentally.

It is a deconstruction and stripping of that programming.

And it also shows how certain roles and behaviors required of Women aren't entirely innocent and have hidden motives behind them.

It also deconstructs popular sayings or phrases used on Women to make them conform.

And it is brutally honest about the way women have been hurt in the past by Men.

For many women, this deconstruction process results in a form of Horror and Terror.

This is actually a good thing, like a form of ego death.

But what Feminism doesn't do well, is give women guidance on how to handle the Horror and Terror.

It just leaves women there, in their Horror, and this is what leads to Misandry and women hating Men.

And in this, you are right.

Leaving women in a state of Horror, is not good.

The solution is not to reverse or get rid of feminism. 

But continue to show women how to Deconstruct their programming while also Reconstructing in a way where Men's value and inherent worth is seen.

[Alexop]

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

What woke toxicity are you referring to, what topics would I be a yes man on? The only thing I disagree with progressives on is socialism. I don't remember many details about this thread. I don't consider people like the hosts of the show The View to even be feminists, they're just idiots, there's people like that, but they're just repeating what they've heard, I think they're a minority just saying stuff for rage ratings, I've never met stupid people like that in real life. I don't go clubbing or even drink, myself, I think that eliminates a lot of idiots from my life, perhaps more than the common Actualized male.

It is partly true that there are many subcultures where feminine perspective starts to shadow the masculine one. If you are masculine you are seen as a problem. Mothers who strip thier boys of any masculine tendency, then they grow up some gullible losers who will just be a shadow of their partners. This toxicity I am talking about. Just as patriarchy made a shadow of the feminine perspective, the upcoming matriarchy creates a shadow of the masculine. That until we fuck it up completely and we invent a better way of living, maybe one that is less ideological and more logical. 

It is partly the economy and social media who is powering these problems but also woke ideology. Women raise their standards because they can, but do they have a plan for men? Men are going down, you cannot just abandon halv of society, they will be radicalized and vote like radical people if you dont't fix them.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Alexop