There are no original people

[Davino]

I walk down the streets and observe closely different individuals. They are not original or genuine. It's like seeing walking archetypes, I can make psychic archaeology on them.

Their clothes, their haircut, their economical position or job, their religion, their way of talking or being. It just fits and conformed to certain roles and societal expectations. The world is just an enormous stage!

It's my understanding that one of the greatest joys of personal development is discovering, being and evolving your true human self. 

 

Note: I do conform and I'm expected to play some archetypes, we all do. 

[integration journey]

Doin this work is a privilege in many ways. People are barely surviving so they can feed themselves and their families and if they have trauma it is worse. Specially in the Middle East for example 

[Godhead]

@Davino Are there no original people or are the categories your mind creates limiting you from seeing their individuality?

[AerisVahnEphelia]

12 minutes ago, Godhead said:

@Davino Are there no original people or are the categories your mind creates limiting you from seeing their individuality?

Great

[theleelajoker]

10 minutes ago, Godhead said:

@Davino Are there no original people or are the categories your mind creates limiting you from seeing their individuality?

@Godhead Nice.

I think it's both. I can see the archetypes @Davino talks about, but I also see the individuality. 

Yes, there's lasagna, and there's pizza and there's pasta. But also, there are infinite differences in the ingredients, in the composition of the food, in the way of cooking and in the way of eating it.

Not to mention that you can combine them in infinite ways to create something new. Have you tried my new lasizza? 

 

[Davino]

56 minutes ago, Godhead said:

Are there no original people or are the categories your mind creates limiting you from seeing their individuality?

Actually both, very intelligent remark

I was also contemplating that while walking down the street

My conclusions were that mind can go as granular or as encompassing as it wants. Meaning that mind can find the uniqueness of every person, moment or fragment of reality OR mind can go in higher encompassing structures and categories. Mind can do both, it's a property. The ideal is to have a multilense mind, using one or the other to see and even using both at the same time.

[Godhead]

11 minutes ago, Davino said:

My conclusions were that mind can go as granular or as encompassing as it wants. Meaning that mind can find the uniqueness of every person, moment or fragment of reality OR mind can go in higher encompassing structures and categories. Mind can do both, it's a property. The ideal is to have a multilense mind, using one or the other to see and even using both at the same time.

Lovely insight.

Too often, we see only a fragment of a person and reduce them to a role, often one we place beneath ourselves. Framing it like that dampens curiosity and discourages looking deeper. Thus, we deny ourselves the chance to discover their full depth and to challenge the assumptions we made in the first place.

To be clear, I am not dismissing your original point. We are all shaped by our environments. Some people simply carry a persistent resistance to conformity, for better and for worse.  

[Davino]

@Godhead Yes, and it also happens the other way around, which is the trap of actually thinking that everyone is so unique and special, when as a matter of fact, most people are just like survival zombies. They haven't done any work to discover and uncover their true self to develop it. They are just the juxtaposition of different societal archetypes, their own DNA and personality dispositions: being limited and playing within that juxtaposition frame. They are like a puppet of all these external forces. And of course, the end result of all these external forces, it is still unique, but it does not happen through a conscious and genuine process of unearthing their true self.

So that is the other side of the trap which you are pointing out. So it happens in both extremes. Just saying this to complete the most common traps in both lenses

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I see similiarly looking people all the time, I've seen the same looking girl like 10 times these past couple of weeks, I'm sure there are like thousands of copies of my lookalikes worldwide. Maybe originality is overrated

[Nick_98]

20 hours ago, Davino said:

I walk down the streets and observe closely different individuals. They are not original or genuine. It's like seeing walking archetypes, I can make psychic archaeology on them.

Their clothes, their haircut, their economical position or job, their religion, their way of talking or being. It just fits and conformed to certain roles and societal expectations. The world is just an enormous stage!

It's my understanding that one of the greatest joys of personal development is discovering, being and evolving your true human self. 

 

Note: I do conform and I'm expected to play some archetypes, we all do. 

People are a reflection to your own self 

[Lyubov]

Don’t judge others 

[Davino]

There's no emotional judgement behind an observation beyond your projection or reaction to it

[Ramasta9]

Yep, I've seen this way for a long time, living amongst bio-robots, a small fraction of soul or originality left, unfortunately.

This movie sums it up, when you awaken your 1st eye, you literally can see them. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Ramasta9

[CARDOZZO]

What is originality? How would you define it? Is it about looks? style? dressing? ways of talking? ideas? 

[UnbornTao]

15 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

What is originality? How would you define it? Is it about looks? style? dressing? ways of talking? ideas? 

Good questions. Was going to post something along those lines. 

Interesting topic.

[UnbornTao]

Maybe originality overlaps with creativity?

[CARDOZZO]

51 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Good questions. Was going to post something along those lines. 

Interesting topic.

Sure. I really like to contemplate these kinds of questions.

[CARDOZZO]

Originality is a construction of new kinds of types within categories or/and a invention of a new category.

Example:

Movement: Walking - Running - Horses - Cars - Airplanes - Rockets - VR/AR - Warp Drives -  Teleportation - Telepathy 

All of them exists within the category of "movement/locomotion". These leaps, reconfiguration or recontextualization is a type of originality. (Innovation/Engineering Originality)

Example:

Human - Cyborg - Digital Entity - Boundless Soul - God

Originality is a non-human feature.

[CARDOZZO]

This is a new kind of Karate. This is originality. Tyrannosaurus style:

 

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

This is a new kind of Karate. This is originality. Tyrannosaurus style:

 

That's just doing the same thing differently. It's what he's stuck with.

Doing judo with only one arm is not what originality is about, in my view.

Edited 1 hour ago by UnbornTao