How to increase pranayama count?

[Magnanimous]

Hey Leo, just wondering why would a yoga master like Mahayasa, Yuketswar, etc continue to practice yoga despite being liberated already?

[cetus]

41 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Hey Leo, just wondering why would a yoga master like Mahayasa, Yuketswar, etc continue to practice yoga despite being liberated already?

If they are truly enlightened my guess would be as a tether to the physical. Without it they would simply vanish.

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Hey Leo, just wondering why would a yoga master like Mahayasa, Yuketswar, etc continue to practice yoga despite being liberated already?

For the same reason I would still take a psychedelic even after I've realized God. You can always discover deeper aspects of God through tripping or meditation.

Also, yoga puts you into blissful states of samadhi. They may like basking in those states. That's what yogis are known to do! If you're gonna be a yogi, you might as well bliss out when you can. It's really no different than taking a psychedelic to unite with God, just done manually.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[cetus]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

For the same reason I would still take a psychedelic even after I've realized God. You can always discover deeper aspects of God through tripping or meditation.

Also, yoga puts you into blissful states of samadhi. They may like basking in those states. That's what yogis are known to do! If you're gonna be a yogi, you might as well bliss out when you can. It's really no different than taking a psychedelic to unite with God.

But what if they were already in that bliss state 24/7?

[integration journey]

I was wondering if anybody here combines kryia yoga with a classic mediation technique like Vipassana? Is there synergy in doing both? 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, cetus said:

But what if they were already in that bliss state 24/7?

That would be such an advanced state that I don't think anyone has that. Certainly not your average yogi.

A human cannot function at the highest states of consciousness. There's just no way you can be that conscious and still do daily activities like eat food, clean your house, or read the daily news.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[cetus]

@Leo Gura I remember a story of an enlightened guru that was well known. Don't remember the exact name. But anyhow, people would come from all over to hear him speak. And every day he demanded his wife have something ready for him to eat at noon. So, one day his wife says to him: "People come from all around to hear you speak of the importance letting go of the material things in life. But yet you insist on having a meal every day at noon. Why is that?" He replied: "That one material indulgence is the only thing that keeps me here."

[Oppositionless]

8 minutes ago, cetus said:

@Leo Gura I remember a story of an enlightened guru that was well known. Don't remember the exact name. But anyhow, people would come from all over to hear him speak. And every day he demanded his wife have something ready for him to eat at noon. So, one day his wife says to him: "People come from all around to hear you speak of the importance letting go of the material things in life. But yet you insist on having a meal every day at noon. Why is that?" He replied: "That one material indulgence is the only thing that keeps me here."

I think that was Ramakrishna. I remember Sadhguru telling that story, he said that when he refused food one day his wife new the end was near.

[Oppositionless]

30 minutes ago, integration journey said:

I was wondering if anybody here combines kryia yoga with a classic mediation technique like Vipassana? Is there synergy in doing both? 

I'm gonna try this. Kriya yoga in the morning and vipassana meditation at night. Also regular , body based yoga 3-4 times a week (at a studio bc I'm looking for a wife ). I bet that would be a really great synergy.

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[cetus]

1 minute ago, Oppositionless said:

I think that was Ramakrishna. I remember Sadhguru telling that story, he said that when he refused food one day his wife new the end was near.

That sounds about right. Thanks!

[Leo Gura]

41 minutes ago, cetus said:

@Leo Gura I remember a story of an enlightened guru that was well known. Don't remember the exact name. But anyhow, people would come from all over to hear him speak. And every day he demanded his wife have something ready for him to eat at noon. So, one day his wife says to him: "People come from all around to hear you speak of the importance letting go of the material things in life. But yet you insist on having a meal every day at noon. Why is that?" He replied: "That one material indulgence is the only thing that keeps me here."

Sadhguru tells that story.

Sounds like Hindu tall-tales.

Yogananda wasn't exactly a light eater. You could make up some cock and bull story about how he was eating to keep himself grounded. Or you could just say dude was fat.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

There is no contradiction between being Awake and loving junk food. Junk food tastes good regardless.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

People can have special genetics that make them exceptions to the rule. But the rule is that psychedelics will permanently change your baseline state.

Typo? Will or won't? 

[mmKay]

22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Just by feel.

30-60 minutes of pranayama is a good number.

You can start with that and if you start to feel too much energy getting activated you can cut it in half.

You should be doing at least 60 mins of pranayama daily. Ideally 90 mins.

I do it in batches of 36 per session. 2 sessions per day. This takes me about 35 mins per session. Do more if you can take the heat. Do less if you can't.

Ideally you want to do as many pranayama as possible. Old school gurus would assign 8 hours of pranayama per day to their most serious students.

The more pranayama you do the sooner you will reach God.

Think of it like this: you need something like 100,000-300,000 pranayama to reach liberation. This is a very loose number but you get the idea. If you only do 12/day you will die before you reach it. If you do 100/day you can reach it in 3 years.

How soon do you want to meet God? Up to you.

By pranayama do you mean that exercise where you sit down, close your eyes, focus your gaze in that spot in between your eyes and visualize a cold/hot energy moving up and down the back of your spine as you breathe/wheeze in and out? 

I'm getting annoyed because I have been wanting to retake kriya for a month but idk what source or book or video or technique or post  to trust at this point. 

I was following "the secrets of kriya yoga" in 2018 and it seems to be extremely effective for me but it was a Spanish translation and it was ridiculously bad. I have all the kriya books from the book list too but haven't read them yet. 

Where to start? 

 

[Leo Gura]

27 minutes ago, mmKay said:

Typo? Will or won't? 

Yes, typo. Sorry, fixed it.

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, mmKay said:

By pranayama do you mean that exercise where you sit down, close your eyes, focus your gaze in that spot in between your eyes and visualize a cold/hot energy moving up and down the back of your spine as you breathe/wheeze in and out? 

Yes, exactly.

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Where to start? 

Gamana's books give very clear and simple techniques.

The Stevens' pranayama technique is also very good.

You already know it. Just do it!

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[LoneWonderer]

@Leo Gura Hi Leo,

I have started doing a simple spinal breathing exercise this year, focusing on bringing attention of energy flowing from base of spine to head. I aim to get to a steady 1h a day practice. Just wondering if this one exercise is valid as my only Kriya yoga technique? Thank you

Also small side note, thank you for all the amazing work you do! 🙏

Edited 1 hour ago by LoneWonderer

[Magnanimous]

 

32 minutes ago, mmKay said:

By pranayama do you mean that exercise where you sit down, close your eyes, focus your gaze in that spot in between your eyes and visualize a cold/hot energy moving up and down the back of your spine as you breathe/wheeze in and out? 

I'm getting annoyed because I have been wanting to retake kriya for a month but idk what source or book or video or technique or post  to trust at this point. 

I was following "the secrets of kriya yoga" in 2018 and it seems to be extremely effective for me but it was a Spanish translation and it was ridiculously bad. I have all the kriya books from the book list too but haven't read them yet. 

Where to start? 

 

@mmKay Yea pranayama is the exercise you're is describing

Where to start? Leo says in a Book List Review to build a routine read two of the books and lay them together. The review is either book 1 or 2 on the kriya section.

Leo also only does Supreme Fire + Pranayama + Maha Mudra (although currently cutting that out). He says those techniques are most effective so I'm doing that.

But he also says you should also experiment to see what works for you.

I would also read whatever he posts on the forum everyday. And on the advanced search you can look up kriya terms like "kriya" "pranayama" because he offers gold nuggets of advice and information.

Like everything he's said in this post was a gold nugget.

Edited 1 hour ago by Magnanimous
Mixed up Leo's name with posters

[Magnanimous]

Leo do you do any of Steven's KP1, KP2, KP3, Pranayama?

Or just Gamanas Supreme Pranayama?

I'm thinking of learning pranayama with Stevens then switching to Gamanas Supreme variant when I get better

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

@Leo Gura Hi Leo,

I have started doing a simple spinal breathing exercise this year, focusing on bringing attention of energy flowing from base of spine to head. I aim to get to a steady 1h a day practice. Just wondering if this one exercise is valid as my only Kriya yoga technique?

Yes it is valid.

8 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Leo do you do any of Steven's KP1, KP2, KP3, Pranayama?

I do KP1. Without Kechari Mudra.

Edited 50 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[LoneWonderer]

@Leo Gura Thank you 🙏