Is the government of Iran about to collapse?

[Twentyfirst]

On 1/10/2026 at 11:56 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Anyway, all middle east would be happy if the ayatollahs regime falls. 

The region won't celebrate until Zionists fall. It's like being happy that that the second hand on the clock gets fixed but the hour hand is still broken.

[Twentyfirst]

Search "Iran passport bros" on X. For the western men, "liberation" is ALWAYS about undressing women so they can have free access to sex without having to commit with marriage or pay a prostitute. If you are a woman and you respect your family and dress modestly, you will be hated and shamed.

[integration journey]

30 minutes ago, AION said:

They used Syria has a pawn to drag down Russian sources. They will use the Iran for the same reason. I don’t think they care about brown people so I’m astonished how naive people are. 

Not all people in Syria and Iran are “brown” but I know what you mean. 

[LordFall]

I don't think these current protests will bring down the regime, lack of infrastructure to support a transition. Best of luck and much love to the Iranian people though. 

[AION]

30 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Not all people in Syria and Iran are “brown” but I know what you mean. 

For Trump it doesn’t matter. You are not white. 

[oldhandle]

3 hours ago, AION said:

For Trump it doesn’t matter. You are not white. 

Ironically many people I know from Iran/Syria are lighter than Italians/Spanish that I know.

[AION]

19 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

Ironically many people I know from Iran/Syria are lighter than Italians/Spanish that I know.

Syrians that I have seen look like those other Arabs while Italians/Spanish are heavily mixed with Northern Europeans because of geography. Few middle-easterners can have white features too but they are not a lot.

Edited January 14 by AION

[Twentyfirst]

On 1/9/2026 at 9:47 PM, LordFall said:

Seems like they're evacuating their gold to Russia. Corrupt cucks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1q8ehgu/irans_gold_allegedly_flown_to_russia_as_supreme/

I just saw that Tether froze Venezuelas funds so this is probably a smart move. No reason to let someone steal your countries assets and let the thief grow stronger.

[Nivsch]

Where s the world?? The protests?

Oh, of course, because it isn't Israel.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Where s the world?? The protests?

Oh, of course, because it isn't Israel.

Because most of the world doesn’t support Iran, the protests were because israel was being armed and supported by world governments.

Americans and Europeans protested because they wanted their government to stop supporting Israel. Their governments don’t support Iran so there is nothing to protest.

Where were you when Israel committed far worse slaughters and far worse repression? Defending then excusing it.

Edited Thursday at 11:38 PM by Raze

[BlueOak]

12 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Where s the world?? The protests?

Oh, of course, because it isn't Israel.

Its largely selective.

If you are aligned with BRICS people will say they disagree with what you are doing when you massarce people in the streets.
If you are not aligned with brics you are the devil.

[Nivsch]

@Raze This wasn't the main motive of the protests at all. The weaponry support comes from the US is sufficient for everything Netanyahu's government wants to do, so it doesn't explain the protests in Europe and therefore a large part of the protests in the US that come from the same sentiment.

Edited Friday at 11:37 AM by Nivsch

[zazen]

Like Raze said - Western governments back and uphold Israel to do what it does (meaning you can protest your own governments actions) where as they don't uphold Iran's. I saw someone say ''pro-Palestine protests are calling to stop bombs (on a besieged stateless people), pro-Iran protests are calling for dropping bombs (on a regime they want changed)''.

One thing we can see is that marginalization leads to more radicalization. That happens in Western countries with ghettoized migrant populations who in fact take on more hard line strands of Islam than even Muslims in Muslim countries ie Dawah bros of UK / Muslim brotherhood offshoots who are more Wahabi / Salafi compared to a Middle East who are over that and trying to tackle it themselves - despite their own states funding much of that historically. Soviet era atheism forced top down brought a resurgence in Orthodox Christianity after USSR falling. We see right Wing Christian nationalism rising also.

If religion and tradition are marginalized too fast, or all together erased (soviet) they go underground and come back later hardened. Ironically - the status quo will look to remain until Iran's given some breathing room to evolve slowly and organically over time which is a boring and ''un-revolutionary''.  A lot of their hardening is due to self preservation of elites / mullahs + external pressure from being attempted to be contained by the imperial hegemon of the day (US and Western allies).

Makes them dig their feet in and centralize the state because any ''liberalising'' or opening up provides surface area and vectors from which to subvert and bring down that same regime. Usually most states don't get repressive because they get boners for it but a lot due to external pressures which are applied to some and not others depending on how geopolitically relevant that country is (resources, chokepoints, population etc) and whether it is aligned ie subjugated or not to imperial interests.

If sanctions were lifted and it could get wealthier + integrate and feel accommodated in the region / world + have a strong middle class of educated people travelling and interacting with the world = that is the best bet at bottom up change and reform happening.

Even Kirk commented on intervention:

 

Edited Friday at 11:48 AM by zazen

[Nivsch]

When Iran kills thousands of its citizens there are no mass protests in Europe or the US despite the large influence those governments have on Iran and tools they can use on it. This large gap cannot be explained by surface level political logic.

[Raze]

6 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

When Iran kills thousands of its citizens there are no mass protests in Europe or the US despite the large influence those governments have on Iran and tools they can use on it. This large gap cannot be explained by surface level political logic.

Not at all. The US and Europe not only arm israel but engage in trade, give aid, provide diplomatic cover. Their support maintains it.

The US and Europe do nothing of the sort regarding Iran and go as far as massively sanctioning not just the government but the entire economy. 

There did seem to be more support during the 2022 Iranian protests yes. I suspect less now because the left is focused on domestic issues & dislike trump and Israels foreign policy actions in the past two years and associate them with the Iranian uprising since they inserted themselves into it.

Edited Friday at 11:57 AM by Raze

[Nivsch]

48 minutes ago, Raze said:

because the left is focused on domestic issues & dislike trump and Israels foreign policy actions in the past two years 

So it is consistent on what it wants to be consistent on, except its moral standarts.

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

So it is consistent on what it wants to be consistent on, except its moral standarts.

The simplest moral standard is you are responsible for what you are implicated in. Western countries arm Israel’s war crimes and repression, they don’t arm Irans.

[gengar]

19 hours ago, Nivsch said:

When Iran kills thousands of its citizens there are no mass protests in Europe or the US despite the large influence those governments have on Iran and tools they can use on it. This large gap cannot be explained by surface level political logic.

 

The mass protests are always from leftists; and leftists are against their own countries being allies with genocidal countries who commit crime against the weak. Europe and the US always try to seem like they are the pinnacle of human rights, so when one of their Western allies commits a clear, severe violation of human rights which many would even deem a genocide, of course leftists are going to go protest that.

It's a very bad comparison to compare that to Iran whom we are not at all allies with. why would a leftist protest in a western country against crimes Iran has done when Iran is already an enemy of the West?

Although I'm not a fan of Israel at all to put it lightly, I do agree with your irritation that leftists' morality is often rage-inducingly selective, conformist and many have (unconscious) jew hate. they are the priests of slave morality and aren't loyal to Truth or Love, but then again, so aren't most Israelis or Russians etc. I have compassion for them though because all have been fed ridiculous amounts of propaganda and bias which is really hard to break out of. I've been there.
 

Edited Saturday at 06:52 AM by gengar

[gengar]

19 hours ago, zazen said:

who are more Wahabi / Salafi compared to a Middle East

It's true that many in the UK, NL, BE are very Wahhabist, but to generalize the middle east as being Wahhabist shows a great fault in your knowledge on this topic. Wahhabism rose as one with the Saudi state through an alliance between Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab - (where Wahhabism was named after) and the first Saudi king - the sect wouldn't exist without the Saudi state and the state wouldn't exist without the sect. they used eachother to become realities, and they allied with the British against the Ottomans, using their new sect's edict that the Ottomans are apostates - they took over Arabia.

This is why many countries in the MENA region actually despise Wahhabism, because they are more loyal to the Islam of the Ottomans - especially countries like Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Syria. The scholars of both strands hate eachother and battle for the allegiance of the lay people.

So it was never MENA who would be deemed Wahhabi as a whole, with Wahhabism being the measure of religious fanaticism; although all Wahhabis are fanatics, not all fanatics are Wahhabi. Hamas, The Muslim Brotherhood, Taliban - they all hate Wahhabism.

The reason why Wahhabism is great in NW European countries is mostly because of a vacuum of scholarschip. Many lay, unintelligent Muslims immigrated there without much scholars, and Wahhabis took this opportunity to convert a lot to their cause. This would never work in a country like Egypt because they are very rooted in their non-Wahhabi tradition. Moroccans are also a big part of NWE Muslims and many of them are also Wahhabis, moreso than in their own country. It's an ongoing battle orchestrated and paid for by Saudi and other actors.

[zazen]

On 17/01/2026 at 7:04 AM, gengar said:

but to generalize the middle east as being Wahhabist shows a great fault in your knowledge on this topic.

I wasn’t aiming for technical precision. I was generalizing to make a broader point that’s directionally correct as you nicely laid out in your own words “It's an ongoing battle orchestrated and paid for by Saudi and other actors.”

That’s what I meant but could’ve worded better by Muslim Brotherhood offshoots ie it itself isn’t Wahhabi but that adjacent groups / offshoots adopted a salafist literalist lens that Wahhabism globalised via funding.

That strand (Wahhabism) and orientation (salafist literalist) of Islam was imposed - that was pushed back on (because of the differences you correctly point out). And even its original sponsors are trying to unwind and de-radicalize it.