Don't worry, we are all same in grave

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I see, so the "self" died, but why does this paradoxically make you free to do anything?

Free to do anything meaning is, body does whatever it is supposed to do. But you are not as you, but as Freedom / Being itself, always.

[James123]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

Okay, we lost him.  

I seriously doubt this is your actual experience.

Any experience belongs to body and mind. You are always same.

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's a fact described by words. Are you breathing or not? 

Body breathes.

Talking without ownership. 

[UnbornTao]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Any experience belongs to body and mind. You are always same.

This is what I mean. You talk in platitudes.

What is an experience? That could be looked into - as an example.

Edited Sunday at 08:54 PM by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

I propose experiment to test validity of your claims. 
 

Get a training watch that measures stress.

If it’s not “at rest” 24/7 then I don’t believe you 

 

 

😆

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Body breathes.

Talking without ownership

The body/mind is what you are, it doesn't need ownership, it's the ownership itself 

[James123]

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

This is what I mean. You talk in platitudes.

What is an experience? That could be looked into - as an example.

İf you learn, what are you gonna get? More ideas? 

Peace.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

The body/mind is what you are, it doesn't need ownership, it's the ownership itself 

Find yourself in body and forget these all energy or layer stuff. 

Reading, learning, experiencing, all comes and goes.

Peace.

[James123]

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I propose experiment to test validity of your claims. 
 

Get a training watch that measures stress.

If it’s not “at rest” 24/7 then I don’t believe you 

 

 

😆

😊 

[Joseph Maynor]

@James123 Do you consider the body and the mind to be just a thought or belief?

[UnbornTao]

33 minutes ago, James123 said:

İf you learn, what are you gonna get? More ideas? 

Peace.

That's why openness is needed in the first place. It's unknown what you'll get. The point lies in the questioning itself.

[James123]

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

That's why openness is needed in the first place. It's unknown what you'll get. The point lies in the questioning itself.

Yes. Therefore, firstly question who is asking.

4 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@James123 Do you consider the body and the mind to be just a thought or belief?

No. Yet, they arises and falls within You.

[Hojo]

I take a stress test everyday its permanently relaxed. It hasn't moved past this state since I awakened. Its like the fear in my brain just stopped and isn't turning back on.@Sugarcoat I feel like I'm brain dead. I have had like 6 others use it cause I thought It was broken and every person that has used it is high stress.

Edited yesterday at 04:09 AM by Hojo

[Opulence]

34 minutes ago, Hojo said:

I take a stress test everyday its permanently relaxed. It hasn't moved past this state since I awakened. Its like the fear in my brain just stopped and isn't turning back on.@Sugarcoat I feel like I'm brain dead. I have had like 6 others use it cause I thought It was broken and every person that has used it is high stress.

Lmao, isn't that unusual?

[Hojo]

@Opulence I think i nuked my amygdala.

[Opulence]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Opulence I think i nuked my amygdala.

Omg yes you did 

[Hojo]

@OpulenceNice try satan. He could only scare me for so long.

Edited 23 hours ago by Hojo

[Mellowmarsh]

11 hours ago, James123 said:

Anything and everything belongs to God, so give back and be completely free. 

Why would God even be bothered or care one iota about things that have been stolen from Him? since anything and everything belongs to God anyway?

 

 

[James123]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Why would God even be bothered or care one iota about things that have been stolen from Him? since anything and everything belongs to God anyway?

 

 

İt doesn't need it. You claim something doesn't belong to you. Therefore, you suffer, so give back you.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

İt doesn't need it. You claim something doesn't belong to you. Therefore, you suffer, so give back you.

I've no idea what you are saying here, James. 

[Mellowmarsh]

9 hours ago, James123 said:

 

No. Yet, they arises and falls within You.

So the body/mind are thoughts. Yet you answered No, when questioned if they are thoughts.

 

You mentioned earlier on my thread, that the I can't see the knowledge and thoughts.

But you ignored my question, when I asked if the I can see an apple, or an orange?

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Mellowmarsh