Human Mint

But what is really worth pursuing?

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This doesn't has an obvious answer. I don't want to fall in the trap of isolating myself in one field, but on the other hand that's seems the only option when it comes to something meaningful. To give a concise answer: whatever you chose to do, do it for the sake of creativity and beauty, that is the only reasonably answer. Now, I don't want to fool anybody, that is probably not possible since whatever you do is out of survival. There is always survival reasons controlling your decisions, meaning that if you think you're doing something purely for creativity probably there are hidden practical reasons.

And there is nothing wrong with pursuing "practical" stuff. If you have a job you do this 24/7, but the question is: is that going to allow you to access the higher levels of intelligence? What if there is a different approach that would bootstrap your growth 100x? How would you know?

How are you supposed to reach high levels of creativity? I ask this precisely because there are not many people that has this answer pinned out, since it means doing much different things than out education system teaches.

What I am implying in this post is that you are already subscribing to a system, but it might be limiting you way too much. Obviously I can say this because I know that it is also playing out in my own life.

So now I am facing making decisions. Or more like I am constantly facing them. For example, right now I can see how my current career is going to shape my identity 5 years from now, playing in a social hierarchy, so I ask the question: how does the way I am studying is going to affect me 10 years from now? Is it what I really want? I am not sure if I am communicating what I want, but probably I would have to elaborate further anyways.

 

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3 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

whatever you chose to do, do it for the sake of creativity and beauty

Yes! It's that simple.

But also Love, Truth, and Good.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes! It's that simple.

But also Love, Truth, and Good.

The problem here is that in order to create something you have to be willing to endure a lot of discomfort, but why would you endure discomfort for the sake of an illusion? It really doesn’t make any sense. 

I really don’t think anyone would go through discomfort without taking what they are doing literally and believing it is actually real. 


"Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie

 

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15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes! It's that simple.

But also Love, Truth, and Good.

Great then...

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11 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

I really don’t think anyone would go through discomfort without taking what they are doing literally and believing it is actually real. 

Love, Truth, Good, Beauty are absolutely real.

So problem solved!


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Just now, Leo Gura said:

Love, Truth, Good, Beauty are absolutely real.

So problem solved!

This is something I often ponder, given the non dual nature of God and reality, how do we understand deeply the gravity towards the Beautiful and the apparent preference towards "The beautiful". I understand the beauty of the horror but I think you know what I'm talking about so I dont have to elaborate too much.

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3 minutes ago, Vestibuowl said:

how do we understand deeply the gravity towards the Beautiful and the apparent preference towards "The beautiful"

What is the puzzlement?

God is Beauty.

You gravitate to Beauty for the same reason you gravitate to Love.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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32 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

There is always survival reasons controlling your decisions, meaning that if you think you're doing something purely for creativity probably there are hidden practical reasons.

You can focus on things you really want in life and continue to pursue them. You need a balance between survival and enthusiasm.


Within every woman there is a wild and natural creature, a powerful force, filled with good instincts, passionate creativity, and ageless knowing ~ Clarrisa Pinkola Estes.

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5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What is the puzzlement?

God is Beauty.

You gravitate to Beauty for the same reason you gravitate to Love.

the puzzlement comes with the apparent distinction of the beautiful and the not

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Pursue what you find meaningful!


 "I heard you guys are very safe. Caught up with the featherweights”" - Bon Iver

                            ◭“Holyfields”

                  

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God is not Love, God is just Possibility.. You (this Human Being vessel/embodiment) have to decide Yourself what is Love and what is not Love, what is Beautiful and is not Beautiful, its purely a Relative/Subjective thing...

On one level You do what You have to do to survive, if stomach is empty then one problem exists, once survival is settled You can move on to other aspects of life, when stomach is full 100 problems exist...

So Life situations are on many levels, the person living in Gaza doesn't not have the same ambitions/desires as a person living in downtown Manhattan in a high-rise condo, their intentions and desires are different.. What is the same is that they both Desire to be More than what they are right Now.. 

So find Your true Interests, fix Survival, become Clear about reality, and what life is and your Role in it, then go for it!

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Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Vestibuowl said:

the puzzlement comes with the apparent distinction of the beautiful and the not

It's all Beautiful but your consciousness is not high enough to see that. So here you are.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's all Beautiful but your consciousness is not high enough to see that. So here you are.

Sure and I may agree on this point even, but I'm simply digging at the root of say the existence of an aversion, and what substantiates that. I give you a steaming pile of shit and vomit, or I give you a diverse platter of ripe tropical fruits, perhaps a bad example, given one may not nurture the body and one may, and the aversion comes from the body and its innate want for the nourishment it intuits it recieves from the fruits and not the pile of shit, and this is also based on the platform of this current reality you find yourself in, but the absolute is here right now. You get the picture though. and if theres an absolute beauty, at what level are you able to fully point to the break down of this aversion, and the apparent pull towards certain beauties over others, if its all absolute beauty in full. Like I said I am merely pondering on this, not caught up on this, and you can see if you analyze this honestly why a puzzle forms, more so in the face of how one could convey the idea of there being no real existing preference on the plane of the absolute. or where the distinction begins of "the beautiful" and the not, illusory or not. Easy to just say its all beautiful, easy to maybe even accept and see this as reality, but breaking it down bit by bit to understand what we see as beautiful and what we see as not and why this happens is an important area of philosophical contemplation. and I simply asked how do ''we'' understand this, properly and deeply. because someone who maybe isn't highly concious isnt going to get anywhere with a statement like oh its all beautiful, you just cant see it. You say "you" gravitate towards beauty, but what is this "you" gravitating towards what, if not just ALL. If just all then no gravity to gravitate.

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@Vestibuowl Survival is your master. You have survival biases.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

@Vestibuowl Survival is your master. You have survival biases.

So then would you say the existence of relative beauty exists purely and only in survival, and in absolute beauty there is not an existing distinction. I can get onboard with a non distinction in an absolute beauty, but sure some kind of idea of "the beautiful" and the not can exist outside a framework of survival, and survivor bias. or no.

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Highly recommend the movie: Perfect Days

About toilet cleaner in Tokyo and his zen-like contentment.

Beautiful movie.


In the Vast Expanse everything that arises is Lively Awakened Awareness.

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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's all Beautiful 

You're  absolutely right

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Money ..health..and peace of mind .if you don't overthink it. 

Also nothing wrong to pursue satisfactory enough and good enough answers to your existential questions which are troubling  you in bedtime. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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