David Goggins Interview

[Ishanga]

Bruce Lee can be compared to Goggins, when Bruce was on the floor playing with his baby, he was doing leg raises at the same time, on a plane rides and in his car he had stress balls that he would squeeze, on a daily basis back in his heavy training days he did 5,000 kicks on the bag and in the air a day on both sides, the man was obsessed. He was also a coke head, they recently found letters confirming his addiction and he was short tempered and had a chip on his shoulder due to being rejected in Hollywood, but he was a great inspiration and still Is, but his huge Egoic drive probably killed him!

[Davino]

On 11/12/2025 at 10:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

The purpose is to point out the dangers of giga-ego.

I think you're strawmanning Goggins and not giving him the proper credit, this man has gone to the hells of his own psyche and learned to push every limit again and again, to actualize the best version of himself.

Anyways, I don't share your position. I feel there's a lot to learn from him, he's very mature and special, probably the best coach out there if you're going through rough times or you're an ambitious person trying to push and breakthrough strong limits within yourself.

[Leo Gura]

@Davino He just rubs me the wrong way. But I see his value for Stage Orange.

[Hojo]

I dont know why you would be inspired by someone who is angry and works out all the time. Whats so cool about working out all day and being angry? He would suck to hang out with.

Do you even want to work out all day? Whats the inspiration here?

He dosent do anything cool with it he just uses it to boost his own ego. At least bruce lee made movies. This guy couldnt make movies cause he cant stop working out to prove his worth.

Edited 13 hours ago by Hojo

[Eskilon]

He did accomplish great things and props to him for that, but you cant help but wonder that he is also neurotic, like all workaholics -- deeply addicted to activity. He is completely unaware of the spiritual dimension of life.

Edited 6 hours ago by Eskilon

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

7 hours ago, Hojo said:

I dont know why you would be inspired by someone who is angry and works out all the time. Whats so cool about working out all day and being angry? He would suck to hang out with.

Do you even want to work out all day? Whats the inspiration here?

He dosent do anything cool with it he just uses it to boost his own ego. At least bruce lee made movies. This guy couldnt make movies cause he cant stop working out to prove his worth.

He doesn't have to be cool, the fact is that he is extremelly mentally strong on his own way, and made something of his life despite comming from an absolute bottom. Cool is a point of view anyway, it's largely decided by what the sheep currently think is cool, althought there is some objectiveness to it as well I suppose. As we can clearly notice throught mere observation, most people are not tryhards but despite that are not cool people either, so it's the worst of both worlds LOL

Strength is a usefull quality on it's own, you can use it to keep yourself afloat in life despite things not going your way which is the part that is inspiring to me personally, his approach to callousing ones mind throught physical exercise speaks to me in some ways althought you can translate that to a more mental activities as well, at the same time I also wouldn't want to be a glazer as I do find his achievements utterly meaningless and stupid. But the mental strength is a good quality to have regardless

[AerisVahnEphelia]

This guy is what happens when you let neurotic behavior run rampant.

Our society believes those guys build things, but they really do not build any real shit.

Geniuses are people like Einstein, Gödel, and other minds who were pretty chill and followed passion.

I doubt they developed this memetic capitalist neurotic malady of the mind.

Currently, the world is filled with people who are completely mentally ill, and this guy is us turning mental illness into a virtue.
In a sane world, he would be put in a zoo with other gorillas.

Human genius is the ability to think new thoughts, create new orders, new strategies.
Inferring reality does not take five thousand push-ups a day.

[Ishanga]

12 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

He doesn't have to be cool, the fact is that he is extremelly mentally strong on his own way, and made something of his life despite comming from an absolute bottom. Cool is a point of view anyway, it's largely decided by what the sheep currently think is cool, althought there is some objectiveness to it as well I suppose. As we can clearly notice throught mere observation, most people are not tryhards but despite that are not cool people either, so it's the worst of both worlds LOL

Strength is a usefull quality on it's own, you can use it to keep yourself afloat in life despite things not going your way which is the part that is inspiring to me personally, his approach to callousing ones mind throught physical exercise speaks to me in some ways althought you can translate that to a more mental activities as well, at the same time I also wouldn't want to be a glazer as I do find his achievements utterly meaningless and stupid. But the mental strength is a good quality to have regardless

Yes, but strength in this context only goes so far, its a temporary strategy to deal with life, but definitely not a solution.. It like the Rocky philosophy of never giving up, always Moving Forward in Life, or Life will take You down and You'll never give up, that appeals to the masses and the masses are actually living it, but in the end its not a solution to Suffering, just a band aid which soon falls off and the scratch is still bleeding and very few know how to stop the bleeding!! 

Strong ego's are attracted to other strong ego's that are doing things they cannot do or are not doing right now.. That is a sign of where You are in life, if You like it keep on keeping on, if not change things, time will tell what was the best way to be! 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

40 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, but strength in this context only goes so far, its a temporary strategy to deal with life, but definitely not a solution.. It like the Rocky philosophy of never giving up, always Moving Forward in Life, or Life will take You down and You'll never give up, that appeals to the masses and the masses are actually living it, but in the end its not a solution to Suffering, just a band aid which soon falls off and the scratch is still bleeding and very few know how to stop the bleeding!! 

Strong ego's are attracted to other strong ego's that are doing things they cannot do or are not doing right now.. That is a sign of where You are in life, if You like it keep on keeping on, if not change things, time will tell what was the best way to be! 

It is a neccesity, simply for the fact that essentially noone gives a shit about the outcomes in our life except maybe for our parents a little bit. But not even them really. For that reason you need mental strength. I'm not looking at it esoterically cause that's just a bunch of salad speak to me, just purely logically and empirically

[Ishanga]

11 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

It is a neccesity, simply for the fact that essentially noone gives a shit about the outcomes in our life except maybe for our parents a little bit. But not even them really. For that reason you need mental strength. I'm not looking at it esoterically cause that's just a bunch of salad speak to me, just purely logically and empirically

Yes, we all need to learn some mental toughness, but again its not a solution and its not about what others think (that is ego coming up again)..

What is the solution, why do You think Goggins does what he does? He does it because it gives him a sense of fulfillment, that is his way to feel fulfilled, for others growing flowers makes them feel fulfilled, this is individualized for sure.. But the core is everyone wants a sense of fulfillment, and if you rely on external situations to stimulate that fulfillment feeling then You will in the end suffer it, because You cannot do it 24/7, even ppl that all all the money in the world get used to it and want more, or to do more, so the basically quality of being Human is "I want to be More than what I am right now", this is desiring process..

But as Humans we can Consciously create our Inner Experience, not have to rely on external situations to be a certain way for us to feel alive and fulfilled, its just a matter of knowing How to do it and then doing it, and there are plenty of methods available for that! The Key in Life is first establish Your BEING, that is I am Peaceful and at Ease naturally, content in a way, then go out and perform Action and DO, and then HAVE and receive things in life...

Edited 4 hours ago by Ishanga

[Hojo]

@NewKidOnTheBlock try hards are by definition not cool.

[Jannes]

On 11.12.2025 at 0:19 PM, Rafael Thundercat said:

Well, when this sort of Dudes talk about Goggings I feel like not interested in him at all

Try not to cringe with this guy tone voice. Clearly in need of some mental help. Now I understand why Leo work is not to everyone. 

The message is mostly on point though, he directly tackles a huge spiritual fantasy. 

Leos teaching style also changed quite a bit, he didnt embrace the reality of what it means to be human in this world. So for the time this critique was even more on point. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Jannes