Mindfulness Stops Creative Insights?

[Sincerity]

On 12/3/2025 at 5:28 PM, SimpleGuy said:

So is it better to yearn to be thoughtless, mindful or just do your meditation and you`re free and having your insights throughout the day? 

It depends on what you want.

Sometimes, when I feel energyless or uninspired, I just sit without distractions and do nothing until an insight or an idea to do something that resonates arises. Then, once it does, I go and do that thing. My goal from the start is for something interesting to arise.

On the other hand, if the act of meditation is your sole focus, then yeah, even if interesting ideas arise you should not pursue them for that time. And yes, you might forget these ideas during/after meditation. Because if you're making even a slight effort to remember the idea which arose during meditation, you're probably meditating wrong - or, you're not aware of what your true focus/goal is.

[Ramasta9]

3 hours ago, How to be wise said:

I’ve definitely noticed memory problems since I started meditating. I used to remember everything, now I can’t remember what happened yesterday.  

That's because its not always relevant to remember my friend. Mediation and Mindfulness does not erase memory or affect it, rather it filters-out what is unnecessary to the moment. I often get asked: "what did you get up to today"? I often cannot answer either, because I am now, I am here, and my story and past is ultimately an illusion, and yet if there is something relevant, i channel it on the spot, rather then remember it then repeat.

The deeper you surrender, and the more of an empty vessel you become, the clearer the channel in which the the divine can flow through, so memory in the "traditional sense" becomes transformed into something else entirely, it stops being a record of your past and becomes a living, responsive intelligence that flows through you in the moment.
 

 

 

[Carl-Richard]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You'll notice, those mindful people are not doing serious creative work. Which is why they are poor and unsuccessful.

You're just thinking about "New Agers" again 

 

10 hours ago, How to be wise said:

I’ve definitely noticed memory problems since I started meditating. I used to remember everything, now I can’t remember what happened yesterday.  

My experience was that my memory became much more accurate for things that are actually useful or relevant, while irrelevant things are basically just gone.

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's because its not always relevant to remember my friend.

I swear I did not read your comment before I left mine 

@Natasha Tori Maru Help :,<

Edited 18 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Jordan of the Shire]

@SimpleGuy If your creativity comes from emptiness and stillness, would it then, be more original?

How do you term the quality of your creativity? By how it is received by others? By your status in relationship to it? By what you gain with it? By how you feel about it? Or the process of being creative itself? Or some other motivation?

Fear, doubt... this is a result of thinking.

Edited 14 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Jordan of the Shire]

@SimpleGuy It is okay to set aside time to be empty, and its okay to set aside time to think about something. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Ponder]

The way I see it, is you practice formal meditation in order to get to the point where you're essentially meditating all the time -- even while doing the activities that we all must do to survive. And, actually, mindulness creates more insights, because by essentially allowing your mind to be bored, insights come about. Boredom is one of the best states of consciousness to experience and dwell in. 

[Ramasta9]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I swear I did not read your comment before I left mine 

@Natasha Tori Maru Help :,<

I don't always read all comments no, I skim through some, but do not always find it relevant to read everyone's comments, especially lengthy ones that can be explained in less words and easier digested. Not to dismiss you or your words, rather felt-need to apply my own touch.

Some say a lot and explain a little, some say a little and explain a lot, some simply land better, some not at all, there are no right or wrongs.

I feel its important to share our own unique expressions even if someone may have shared it previously in their own way, because there could be something in ones unique expression that hits or touches deeper and vice versa.

We are all expressions of the divine and all comments / words are valid. 

[Lyubov]

Because it’s not properly taught. You have to realize that in the spiritual space there’s a lot of teachers, tutors, etc who maybe have some unique insights to share and their own spirituality that is unique to them but it doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a solid teaching. 

Mindfulness and meditation doesn’t have to mean just shutting off the mind and shutting down in general. It’s an incomplete and poor teaching. There are vibrant meditations which are about focusing your mind, attuning yourself and raising your sensitivity. Freeing yourself and LIVING. You lovingly quiet the childish inner voice that’s always yapping and probably has a lot of limiting beliefs attached to it. Then with this intention that is set for experiencing creativity, creativity will come. I would flip it. It’s not about trying to sit and be creative. I would ask what’s in the way of you naturally being creative, since the vibrant and abundant creative state is your true and natural state. Anything less than abundant joy that sees possibilities in everything and beauty in all is some belief in the way blocking this from flowing to you effortlessly with no heavy sense of control or doership to it. It feels spontaneous and alive, the true Self.

I’ve been there, those meditating into an empty hole teachers. Honestly they suck. They aren’t pursuing an awakening that pairs well with real life and are sharing a poor teaching. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Lyubov

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

I don't always read all comments no, I skim through some, but do not always find it relevant to read everyone's comments, especially lengthy ones that can be explained in less words and easier digested. Not to dismiss you or your words, rather felt-need to apply my own touch.

Some say a lot and explain a little, some say a little and explain a lot, some simply land better, some not at all, there are no right or wrongs.

I feel its important to share our own unique expressions even if someone may have shared it previously in their own way, because there could be something in ones unique expression that hits or touches deeper and vice versa.

We are all expressions of the divine and all comments / words are valid. 

This is just the beginning 🫣

[Ramasta9]

37 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

This is just the beginning 🫣

Enlighten me  

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Carl-Richard busy channelling OTHER forum members thoughts now, I see...

It is always something that 'happens' to us, in a natural way, rather than anything one actually tries to pick up on...

Not even a surprise. Just 'oh I'm sharing thoughts again with ANOTHER person - more evidence my thoughts aren't all mine????'

[SimpleGuy]

@Sincerity Thank you

21 hours ago, Sincerity said:

Because if you're making even a slight effort to remember the idea which arose during meditation, you're probably meditating wrong

Why is it wrong?

 

6 hours ago, Jordan of the Shire said:

@SimpleGuy If your creativity comes from emptiness and stillness, would it then, be more original?

How do you term the quality of your creativity? By how it is received by others? By your status in relationship to it? By what you gain with it? By how you feel about it? Or the process of being creative itself? Or some other motivation?

Fear, doubt... this is a result of thinking.

Didn`t understand what you wrote.

[Sincerity]

5 hours ago, SimpleGuy said:

Why is it wrong?

Because you're starting to focus on something other than meditation.

Just know what you want and go for that. If you want meditation for its own sake, focus only on the meditation - otherwise you're not really meditating.  If you want insights and creative inspirations, then that's your focus. Make your pick in the moment.

[Ishanga]

Mindfulness is about being Mindful of the Mind and Thinking/Thought process, essentially You are creating a space btwn what is YOu and the Thought/Thinking patterns, so its not about eliminating thoughts per say, but even if You did that, that is fine too, because in the stillness/silence comes creativity, something original and new.. If Your too identified with thoughts/thinking then  your stuck in old recycled data, nothing new will come out of that!

[UnbornTao]

On 12/6/2025 at 2:10 PM, Carl-Richard said:

"State" is a useful word for conceiving of enlightenment as a thing, in theory, for the sake of utility, even though enlightenment itself, in actuality, cannot be conceived of.

Okay, that is fair.