Teal Swan - A Deep Dive Into Her Work

[AION]

Teal’s work is the best of what women have to offer in spirituality. Very little woo woo. Other spiritual female teachers tend to go into tarot or some oils/stones and astronomy. It is refreshing to listen to her. Until recently with her documentary fiasco she had this Goddess complex which she lost. That really help to ground her. I like how Teal is right now.  

Edited 4 hours ago by AION

[AerisVahnEphelia]

33 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Like her episodes about what men need to understand about women, masculine containment, what it's like to be a woman.

This is good stuff for men to learn.

You guys are being too cynical and closedminded.

She has good insights about emotions, trauma, relationships, shadow work. That is stuff my work doesn't cover so much.

Teal is popular because she is genuinely helpful to many people.

you know weed is popular too, also cokaïne.

popular doesn't mean shit, in fact quite the contrary, the more popular usually the more low consciousness.
not always but it's almost a rule.

the more intelligent, the more weird the stuff you enjoy.

Edited 3 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you know weed is popular too, also cokaïne.

popular doesn't mean shit,

I said, she is popular BECAUSE she is helpful to people. Not for stupid reasons.

Read some testimonials from people she's helped.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Bogdan]

This conversation has been super eye opening for me.

I'm realizing indeed I am being way too cynical, and also that I actually am able to extract the good and leave the bad. At least moreso than in the past.

In fact, what Teal teaches has been truly life transforming for me. Like the parts Leo was mentioning, and reciprocity, and others.

Funny how in the moment I was stuck in the negative.

I think I've been falling in the trap of becoming alergic to new agey stuff, cause I'm finally getting rid of all those beliefs myself.

But I shouldn't throw away everything that has a worse noise-to-signal ratio than Actualized, lol.

Damn, I almost fell in the trap of thinking "I'm better" than Teal for a sec 😆 when in fact I'm just starting to make sense of all this stuff, after (only) a decade of Actualized.

[Basman]

People on this forum can be quiet close minded when they really want to.

[Alexop]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Like her episodes about what men need to understand about women, masculine containment, what it's like to be a woman.

This is good stuff for men to learn.

You guys are being too cynical and closedminded.

She has good insights about emotions, trauma, relationships, shadow work. That is stuff my work doesn't cover so much.

Teal is popular because she is genuinely helpful to many people.

Yes! And this stuff is barely mentioned by anyone. Because it is against the post-modern, equality conformism. 

The mainstream talk about men vs. women is the Dr. K gamer GGG non-sense. Stuff that sounds good but does not fix the problem.

Edited 2 hours ago by Alexop

[Miguel1]

like I said in my opener, a lot of men here has a masculine shadow. And this thread proves the point.

I knew Leo would be able to see things through a more objective lense about Teal. The things he points out are the same stuff I feel about Teal.

Which makes it easier for me to respond to ya’lls answers.

It is really hard to get people to see things when they don’t have the psyche to see things.

”You don’t believe what you see — you see what your unconsciousness sees”

 

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[Miguel1]

34 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Yes! And this stuff is barely mentioned by anyone. Because it is against the post-modern, equality conformism. 

The mainstream talk about men vs. women is the Dr. K gamer GGG non-sense. Stuff that sounds good but does not fix the problem.

Exactly. That’s why I’ve learned to appreciate her work ever so deeper. She goes to the very roots like nobody else, and does so very intelligently.

And like I said (again in my opener), Leo is too head focused. She is more heart focused. These two needs to be integrated.

Looks like Leo is aware of this, which is not of course, surprising.

Edited 1 hour ago by Miguel1

[Ishanga]

Again what typically happens on threads like this is the old tribal spirit comes up, those that like her vs those that do not, with both sides trying to convince the other side of why they should be on their side, especially when the leader of the place chims in, then the ones on his side really get going.,.

In the end it is all Ego, which is what? Not really You or false self..

I can get allot out of someone that does wrong, basically I learn what not to do, but when it comes to self/personal development we have to be more picky, as self is very complex and full of shadows and things that we don't know about ourselves, if the wrong advice is given and is received by the listener or interested party, it could set them back years of development or maybe a lifetime.  Its not like watching a bad carpenter and then knowing how not to hammer a nail or cut a piece of wood.

Besides why learn about relationships and what the other sex thinks of You, when most of You think everyone else is a figment of Your imagination or non existent? I don't get it!

Anyhow to each their own, time will tell, Karma rules!

Edited 1 hour ago by Ishanga

[Ramasta9]

A great man once said: Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Create what is uniquely your own.

 

 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I said, she is popular BECAUSE she is helpful to people. Not for stupid reasons.

Read some testimonials from people she's helped.

Weed also helped me.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying there is nothing to truly ground our metaphysics in except faith, ultimately. Sometimes popular people deserve to be popular because they are doing something right. No need to convince me. We can spin words all day, but ultimately love is where we stop thinking and start enjoying the ground we’ve made.

Even if what she was doing wasn't pure mental poison (I've no clue I forgot about her currently ), if it gives people meaning, a sense of direction, a calm voice, some good feeling, I suppose it's right.

Or maybe it's killing them and turning them more foolish, toxic, and stupid. We will never really know.

Of course a beautiful story is awesome, but you don’t need to legitimize her just because she’s a vlogger. Plenty of people hate the “vlog style” and still follow you.

Ultimately drugs can also be good. Sometimes I even fell asleep during your episodes, and you’re appreciated for doing “boring” episodes that help me sleep so tightly.

We might think money is good, but maybe it’s the convenience that makes our lives rigid, weak, and unwilling to want more. The remedy becomes the poison.

I’m sure it’s a bit uncomfortable to hear that your vlog made me stone-rock dive my sleep, but you’re still helping, maybe just not in the way you expected.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Exactly. That’s why I’ve learned to appreciate her work ever so deeper. She goes to the very roots like nobody else, and does so very intelligently.

Yep - instead of a bunch of 'action steps' and exterior focus she prompts people to examine their feelings stemming from beliefs. Tracing things back to root experiences from childhood, false conclusions that lock us in shame. Looking into what we are rejecting on the outside to realise that is actually what we have in our shadows, unclaimed inside us. Her masculine/feminine polarity stuff is accurate. 

I like how she really emphasises women's need for safety and security. Safety is a big one, many men never even think on this and how it means to operate from that mode. I feel she is very on point when she raises modern women do not show men how they provide her VALUE. How to appreciate men for this. How to show it. And to make ROOM for men in their lives. Women cannot keep blaming men for strength/power and 'misusing it' while simultaneously wanting to shelter under the safety of said power. Modern women and 'feminism' often do not realise how they emasculate men by telling them 'you are not needed or required and what you provide isn't good enough' and she goes into this. 

So important for women to show gratitude and make space for men to provide. And masculine containment often leads to the surrender to happiness and joy in women that delights men, for they provide this. Just some of her messages I think are of value and missing in mainstream society.

[Ramasta9]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Again what typically happens on threads like this is the old tribal spirit comes up, those that like her vs those that do not, with both sides trying to convince the other side of why they should be on their side, especially when the leader of the place chims in, then the ones on his side really get going.,.

In the end it is all Ego, which is what? Not really You or false self..

I can get allot out of someone that does wrong, basically I learn what not to do, but when it comes to self/personal development we have to be more picky, as self is very complex and full of shadows and things that we don't know about ourselves, if the wrong advice is given and is received by the listener or interested party, it could set them back years of development or maybe a lifetime.  Its not like watching a bad carpenter and then knowing how not to hammer a nail or cut a piece of wood.

Besides why learn about relationships and what the other sex thinks of You, when most of You think everyone else is a figment of Your imagination or non existent? I don't get it!

Anyhow to each their own, time will tell, Karma rules!

Yeah, I get the same vibe about Jagadish Vasudev, while most praise him as this "enlightened master", i see right through him. Never discredit him fully though, some things he says are useful, and maybe better suited for the general masses, at the same time a lot of it is full of shadows, as you say.

But its all Ego at the end of the day, "isn't it" Hello? 

 

 

 

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Yeah, I get the same vibe about Jagadish Vasudev, while most praise him as this "enlightened master", i see right through him. Never discredit him fully though, some things he says are useful, and maybe better suited for the general masses, at the same time a lot of it is full of shadows, as you say.

But its all Ego at the end of the day, "isn't it" Hello? 

 

 

 

If we had no Ego we would not be here chatting away and this forum would not exist, but ego as with everything is a dbl edge sword, its purpose is social, masks are created and worn but never taken off, do I need a mask when at home alone? 

Don't care about what anyone thinks of SJV, I know for myself what he is and isn't:) Plus U can't compare the two, totally  different leagues of involvement and purpose!

Edited 1 hour ago by Ishanga

[AerisVahnEphelia]

3 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Yep - instead of a bunch of 'action steps' and exterior focus she prompts people to examine their feelings stemming from beliefs. Tracing things back to root experiences from childhood, false conclusions that lock us in shame. Looking into what we are rejecting on the outside to realise that is actually what we have in our shadows, unclaimed inside us. Her masculine/feminine polarity stuff is accurate. 

I like how she really emphasises women's need for safety and security. Safety is a big one, many men never even think on this and how it means to operate from that mode. I feel she is very on point when she raises modern women do not show men how they provide her VALUE. How to appreciate men for this. How to show it. And to make ROOM for men in their lives. Women cannot keep blaming men for strength/power and 'misusing it' while simultaneously wanting to shelter under the safety of said power. Modern women and 'feminism' often do not realise how they emasculate men by telling them 'you are not needed or required and what you provide isn't good enough' and she goes into this. 

So important for women to show gratitude and make space for men to provide. And masculine containment often leads to the surrender to happiness and joy in women that delights men, for they provide this. Just some of her messages I think are of value and missing in mainstream society.

at the end of the day, all things are about love.
All your feelings, your overthinking, they all come from two state of mind : fear or love

if you live in love, reality will always shape in cooperation, love, willing to hear your presence, and being present.
fear is disconnection, lies, deception.

our words are plays, a dance, are we sharing the dance of love or of fear ?

we all fall for it once in a while, the real work is to find how to be in love no matter how reality surround us.

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

at the end of the day, all things are about love.
All your feelings, your overthinking, they all come from two state of mind : fear or love

if you live in love, reality will always shape in cooperation, love, willing to hear your presence, and being present.
fear is disconnection, lies, deception.

our words are plays, a dance, are we sharing the dance of love or of fear ?

we all fall for it once in a while, the real work is to find how to be in love no matter how reality surround us.

Its okay to critique and share opinions on someone, but in the end we really don't know..

I luv it how ppl critique Musk, and these other wealthy tech or non tech giants, without realizing that they will automatically have haters and nay sayers and pundits against them writing and sharing what may not be the truth just because they hate or dislike, but in all reality none of us know or can imagine what it is like to be worth $500 Billion, to run multiple companies, to always be watched and wanted and interviewed and to make it all work out successfully, we don't know what that is like and probably never will, but we judge from miles and miles away, so for me there is no credibility in that at all..

Teal for sure has shared some value, but I don't think it is original to herself, she may have just picked it up and shared it, but if the vib you feel from her is off, You have to trust it and move on, just don't wish anyone ill in what they do, their karma will lead them down the path they deserve!!

Edited 1 hour ago by Ishanga

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Teal for sure has shared some value, but I don't think it is original to herself, she may have just picked it up and shared it

I think some of her observations relating to modern society are unique - however you are correct. She learned a lot of her current teachings from others. Which is usually the case for modern spiritual teachers bar some outliers.

I think her rather questionable 'completion process' is an innovation. I only question it as it is not recognised by any authorities and many people have had negative/mixed results.

13 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

at the end of the day, all things are about love.

Well, yeah - of course 

It is just that many people need to unpack all their shit to see that love/fear dichotomy. And she can help some with that. Coupled onto this is basic survival which she weaves into her work.

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Basman]

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I like how she really emphasises women's need for safety and security. Safety is a big one, many men never even think on this and how it means to operate from that mode.

This is a pretty deep insight I learned from Teal Swan which I had forgotten that I learned from her. It's pretty fundamental to understanding the female experience actually. There's another of how sexual fetishes reflect latent desires for particular emotional experiences, like needing to feel in control or vice versa, which seems true to me following my own contemplation of the topic.

She can be extraordinarily insightful into relationship dynamics, though I find I need to verify her ideas more than I would from others because she doesn't qualify her statements much. I'm a little cautious of her epistemically too with all the new age babble and the weird rumors that surround her. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Basman said:

She can be extraordinarily insightful into relationship dynamics, though I find I need to verify her ideas more than I would from others because she doesn't qualify her statements much. I'm a little cautious of her epistemically too with all the new age babble and the weird rumors that surround her. 

Agree with this take.

[Miguel1]

Yes, Teal’s work focuses not only on healing the inner child, the females and the males but more importantly the relationship between all.

For men, it is to learn how to provide containment and safety, and for women to make men feel valued and appreciated for what they bring.

Edited 34 minutes ago by Miguel1